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Cynadore
3 R Corporation
#21 - 2014-11-23 10:58:17 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
No....they are way too easy.

Edit - and yes, you really should be doing L4s in a battleship or T3. Why on earth would you use something else?


I run level 4s in an assault frigate.

Problem?


Good for you that you have so much time on your hands. I've done it, but it takes forever. Enjoy your 2M ISK/hr.
Mharius Skjem
Guardians of the Underworld
#22 - 2014-11-23 11:10:04 UTC
Erin Crawford wrote:
Mharius Skjem wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
No....they are way too easy.

Edit - and yes, you really should be doing L4s in a battleship or T3. Why on earth would you use something else?


I run level 4s in an assault frigate.

Problem?


Oh goodie an ego post.

I just love ego posts.

What remiel is really saying is 'look at me, I'm uber... and possibly leet. '


Actually there are quite a few players taking even normal frigs in to L4s for the lols - has nothing to do with ego, being umber whatever or leet - just the fun factor. Try get a team of 4 or 5 in frigs and hit up an L4.


I know i've done all of those things myself in my 6 years of playing.

A recovering btter vet,  with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...

Don't take me too seriously though, I like to tease a bit on the forums, but that's only because I love you...
Mharius Skjem
Guardians of the Underworld
#23 - 2014-11-23 11:10:50 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Yup. Ego has little to do with it. Running 3's and 4's in an AF is a blast. It's slower, so those who feel that ISK/hr is the only metric in the game worth considering are going to be baffled by the notion. On the other hand, mindlessly grinding out missions as fast as possible is not what I personally consider to be fun.


Well said sir.

+1 from me.

A recovering btter vet,  with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...

Don't take me too seriously though, I like to tease a bit on the forums, but that's only because I love you...
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2014-11-23 11:11:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Cynadore wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
No....they are way too easy.

Edit - and yes, you really should be doing L4s in a battleship or T3. Why on earth would you use something else?


I run level 4s in an assault frigate.

Problem?


Good for you that you have so much time on your hands. I've done it, but it takes forever. Enjoy your 2M ISK/hr.


I don't do it for the isk, or the epeen, I do it to steal the original mission runner's loot. Der. What do you take me for, some kinda PVE'er?

HEIL SANSHA!!!

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2014-11-23 11:24:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
You know what's always fun? Going into someone's lvl 4 mission, and if they don't shoot at you and run back to dock cuz you're GCC (only way to fly in highsec), then you shoot all their triggers in one room, draw all the spawns to the beacon, then reship to cloaky, return to room, and watch them instasplode when they land. Have fraps running for bonus points.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Mharius Skjem
Guardians of the Underworld
#26 - 2014-11-23 11:28:15 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
You know what's always fun? Going into someone's lvl 4 mission, and if they don't shoot at you cuz you're GCC (only way to fly in highsec), then you shoot all their triggers in one room, draw all the spawns to the beacon, then reship to cloaky, return to room, and watch them instasplode when they land. Have fraps running for bonus points.


I rather like this...

A recovering btter vet,  with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...

Don't take me too seriously though, I like to tease a bit on the forums, but that's only because I love you...
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#27 - 2014-11-23 12:12:17 UTC
Confirming that AF's are also great for invading other peoples' level 4 missions as well.
And level 3's.
And level 2's.
I'd say level 1's, but they're usually done with before you finish scanning down the ship.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#28 - 2014-11-23 12:16:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Hal Morsh
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
No....they are way too easy.

Edit - and yes, you really should be doing L4s in a battleship or T3. Why on earth would you use something else?


I run level 4s in an assault frigate.

Problem?



I tried level 3's in an ishkur. It works until you stop moving, then you die.


Then again I do lose a ship every now and then to NPC's. Missions and complexes.

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#29 - 2014-11-23 12:21:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
No....they are way too easy.

Edit - and yes, you really should be doing L4s in a battleship or T3. Why on earth would you use something else?


I run level 4s in an assault frigate.

Problem?


Some people have done burners in battleship and they still lost a fight. So, yes. But problems are there to stay, because these problems are good kind of a problems for a game.

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2014-11-23 12:22:15 UTC
Hal Morsh wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
No....they are way too easy.

Edit - and yes, you really should be doing L4s in a battleship or T3. Why on earth would you use something else?


I run level 4s in an assault frigate.

Problem?



I tried level 3's in an ishkur. It works until you stop moving, then you die.


Then again I do lose a ship every now and then to NPC's. Missions and complexes.


That's just frigates in general. The trick to frigate combat is don't ever stop moving. I teach rookies three things in frigate combat, the three golden rules:

1. A frig without prop is a dead frig
2. A motionless frig is a dead frig
3. Despite all that, you're probably still going to lose your frig.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#31 - 2014-11-23 12:34:32 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
No....they are way too easy.

Edit - and yes, you really should be doing L4s in a battleship or T3. Why on earth would you use something else?


I run level 4s in an assault frigate.

Problem?


Some people have done burners in battleship and they still lost a fight. So, yes. But problems are there to stay, because these problems are good kind of a problems for a game.



Yea people using an exploit to get battleships into burner missions, still lost them.

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#32 - 2014-11-23 12:39:03 UTC
And they expect a battleship to perform better against a frigate why? It's a bad fight, especially with NPC's not having to worry about cap or ammo. An Ishkur flown by a player is an absolute nightmare for most non-drone PVE BS's to engage, I can only imagine that the NPC version can only be more of a pain in the arse.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#33 - 2014-11-23 13:49:44 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

I vaguely remember one kind of problem over the years and it pops up in the forums and maybe after some patches but basically it's when the ship lacks the kinds of bonus that a players skill would bring to it, like the percentage of repair per cycle based on skill for example.


Yeah, that might make sense with what they're talking about, if a heavy resist ship is somehow taking more damage than one with lower resists.


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Cache?


Definitely. It's my go to advice for people with weird issues, and now that you can share overviews dumping your cache is basically harmless.

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Syn Shi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#34 - 2014-11-23 16:58:29 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
You know what's always fun? Going into someone's lvl 4 mission, and if they don't shoot at you and run back to dock cuz you're GCC (only way to fly in highsec), then you shoot all their triggers in one room, draw all the spawns to the beacon, then reship to cloaky, return to room, and watch them instasplode when they land. Have fraps running for bonus points.



Were you that dude that came into my 4/10, triggered everything, got his Ishtar all blowd up and I was able to loot the 4/10 and the nice blingy Ishtar......I just want to say thank-you.
Cynadore
3 R Corporation
#35 - 2014-11-23 17:25:15 UTC
Hal Morsh wrote:

Yea people using an exploit to get battleships into burner missions, still lost them.



These are people who fail at EVE and don't understand how sig radius and speed tanking work. Sure a battleship has a much bigger tank. But a battleship ends up taking 100% of the damage too, before considering resists. A good frigate usually gets missed by everything except other frigates and even then...
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2014-11-23 17:29:31 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
You know what's always fun? Going into someone's lvl 4 mission, and if they don't shoot at you and run back to dock cuz you're GCC (only way to fly in highsec), then you shoot all their triggers in one room, draw all the spawns to the beacon, then reship to cloaky, return to room, and watch them instasplode when they land. Have fraps running for bonus points.



I do that the less subtle way.. I hae a vargur that can probe and get into missions screw it up as much as possible and gtfo to another mission. THe advantage is that you have neough dps to break the rats that you need to kil to start another wave.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2014-11-23 17:30:50 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
And they expect a battleship to perform better against a frigate why? It's a bad fight, especially with NPC's not having to worry about cap or ammo. An Ishkur flown by a player is an absolute nightmare for most non-drone PVE BS's to engage, I can only imagine that the NPC version can only be more of a pain in the arse.



depends.. if the battleship is a vindicator.. it works :P

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2014-11-23 19:06:17 UTC
Syn Shi wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
You know what's always fun? Going into someone's lvl 4 mission, and if they don't shoot at you and run back to dock cuz you're GCC (only way to fly in highsec), then you shoot all their triggers in one room, draw all the spawns to the beacon, then reship to cloaky, return to room, and watch them instasplode when they land. Have fraps running for bonus points.



Were you that dude that came into my 4/10, triggered everything, got his Ishtar all blowd up and I was able to loot the 4/10 and the nice blingy Ishtar......I just want to say thank-you.


I don't fly Ishtars.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#39 - 2014-11-23 19:26:49 UTC
Mharius Skjem wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
You know what's always fun? Going into someone's lvl 4 mission, and if they don't shoot at you cuz you're GCC (only way to fly in highsec), then you shoot all their triggers in one room, draw all the spawns to the beacon, then reship to cloaky, return to room, and watch them instasplode when they land. Have fraps running for bonus points.


I rather like this...

This is the correct method for salvaging a lvl 4Blink

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Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#40 - 2014-11-23 19:29:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Omar Alharazaad
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
And they expect a battleship to perform better against a frigate why? It's a bad fight, especially with NPC's not having to worry about cap or ammo. An Ishkur flown by a player is an absolute nightmare for most non-drone PVE BS's to engage, I can only imagine that the NPC version can only be more of a pain in the arse.



depends.. if the battleship is a vindicator.. it works :P

As my fool self discovered a while back when I drunkenly decided it was a good idea to flip a vindi with a navy comet.
Results were predictable. IE: "Oh! Oh! I'm on fire! I'm on fire! Surely he's almost out of dron"

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.