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"Eve is not dying"

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Mharius Skjem
Guardians of the Underworld
#21 - 2014-11-22 20:46:48 UTC
Grauth Thorner wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2X1MIR1KMs

Such a shame I am the first person to post the link in this thread, I am disappointed.


That is the greatest trailer I've ever seen.

Well done CCP

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Saisin
Chao3's Rogue Operatives Corp
#22 - 2014-11-23 04:44:47 UTC
great trailer!!.. no inacurate promises Big smile

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Nuran Mukadder
Chor Aurea
#23 - 2014-11-23 04:53:58 UTC
I just re-subbed because of that trailer. I couldn't control myself.

What can I say? I missed Space Spreadsheets Online.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#24 - 2014-11-23 05:01:11 UTC
Chribba wrote:
... or is it the last effort to save the dying game?!?!?! ShockedShockedShocked

I thought I closed that thread.

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#25 - 2014-11-23 06:12:46 UTC
Mharius Skjem wrote:
Grauth Thorner wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2X1MIR1KMs

Such a shame I am the first person to post the link in this thread, I am disappointed.


That is the greatest trailer I've ever seen.

Well done CCP



Seconded, I ran into 3 guys tonight I hadn't seen in ages , they are back because of the trailer.
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#26 - 2014-11-23 10:29:55 UTC
Jed Dye wrote:


Such a shame that half of the stuff in the new trailer isn't feasible with todays mechanics What?


Still feasible and not to take from the trailer, it's a good trailer in terms of promoting the comradery aspects of EVE but like the new mechanics, like much of EVE it's the down time between these moments is what kills EVE for many. It's needed down time. Ship and fit replacement is a slow process but for the pure PvP, gang crowd it's still a kill joy.

The clone grade system being abolished needs a Sci-fi trailer or lead up in one of the Capsuleer threat developments. I really think it will have a huge impact on stagnation in the game. I expect that change alone to spawn a lot more LOLFleets in EVE. T1 to T2 cruiser cost is 30:1 but 20 mill clones x 30 losses removed it as an option, for me at least.
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-11-23 11:06:09 UTC
Is it just me or does everyone seem to get real happy when they encounter rooks and kings

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Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2014-11-23 11:45:56 UTC
Either the best or at least in the top 10 trailers they've ever done. All about the gamers in this one and the voice over... Yup, that's how it tends to be.

Very nicely done.
Solops Crendraven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2014-11-23 15:59:33 UTC
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The Conference Elite
The Conference
#30 - 2014-11-23 16:25:10 UTC
No no no!

If it's not dying then it is already dead. That would be a shame!
Tarpedo
Incursionista
#31 - 2014-11-23 18:08:22 UTC
WoW added almost 50% players (subscribers?) after recent expansion - 3 millions total. Suddenly, instead of stagnating game we have explosive growth.

I hope one day EVE management will realize that no trailer, battle-based PR, empty promises, re-skins, debugs/balance may be compared to financial effect of actual expansion of gameplay.

p.s. interesting method to create a trailer.
Sol Project
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#32 - 2014-11-23 18:11:17 UTC
OMFG I was watching it AGAIN!

So ****** brilliant! :O

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#33 - 2014-11-23 18:12:56 UTC
Tarpedo wrote:
WoW added almost 50% players (subscribers?) after recent expansion - 3 millions total. Suddenly, instead of stagnating game we have explosive growth.

I hope one day EVE management will realize that no trailer, battle-based PR, empty promises, re-skins, debugs/balance may be compared to financial effect of actual expansion of gameplay.

p.s. interesting method to create a trailer.

There's always that one guy who doesn't get it.

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Famine Aligher'ri
Sheriff.
United Caldari Space Command.
#34 - 2014-11-23 18:40:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Famine Aligher'ri
Tarpedo wrote:
WoW added almost 50% players (subscribers?) after recent expansion - 3 millions total. Suddenly, instead of stagnating game we have explosive growth.

I hope one day EVE management will realize that no trailer, battle-based PR, empty promises, re-skins, debugs/balance may be compared to financial effect of actual expansion of gameplay.

p.s. interesting method to create a trailer.


Umm, what? You're talking about a huge multi-million dollar investment in content growth within a game that has millions of players playing one IP (World of Warcraft) and even more within message reach that are currently deactivated (players that left World of Warcraft) within the same IP. That's not accounting for the millions of others playing other IP's under the same publisher such as StarCraft, Warcraft, Diablo and now, Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft.

And that's just talking about their current and past customer base who would listen. Then you have the huge marketing budget to actually promote the new expansion to everyone else, both new and old who have not received the message, "Hey, WoW has a hot new expansion! Check it out!"

EVE will continue to thrive off their niche market for another 10 years because at the end of the day, you don't need millions of players to still be successful. They could likely run this game on much, much lower for a very long time.

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Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#35 - 2014-11-23 18:59:59 UTC
Famine Aligher'ri wrote:


EVE will continue to thrive off their niche market for another 10 years because at the end of the day, you don't need millions of players to still be successful. They could likely run this game on much, much lower for a very long time.


+1 and well said.

I thiink you'll find a very vocal minorty of forum posters who don't really like EVE but play it for some kooky reason or another, and they will always try to find ways to spin a situation into "see CCP , you need to give me something more because you will make more money if you do, also think of the children".

I think you're right, EVE could survive with a lot less subscribers and still be profitable enough to continue, though I don't see that ever happening. The main people who think "EVE is dying" are the people who kind of want it to (almost) die so that CCP will change the game more towards their personal rpeferences. This is why EVERYTIME a new game is announced, they same old crew proclaims it will kill EVE (the short list is SWG, SWTOR, Black Prophecy, Jumpgate, Star Trek Online and now Elite + Star Citizen).

Funny side note, it's Not just an EVE thing lol.
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2014-11-23 19:07:13 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Famine Aligher'ri wrote:


EVE will continue to thrive off their niche market for another 10 years because at the end of the day, you don't need millions of players to still be successful. They could likely run this game on much, much lower for a very long time.


+1 and well said.

I thiink you'll find a very vocal minorty of forum posters who don't really like EVE but play it for some kooky reason or another, and they will always try to find ways to spin a situation into "see CCP , you need to give me something more because you will make more money if you do, also think of the children".

I think you're right, EVE could survive with a lot less subscribers and still be profitable enough to continue, though I don't see that ever happening. The main people who think "EVE is dying" are the people who kind of want it to (almost) die so that CCP will change the game more towards their personal rpeferences. This is why EVERYTIME a new game is announced, they same old crew proclaims it will kill EVE (the short list is SWG, SWTOR, Black Prophecy, Jumpgate, Star Trek Online and now Elite + Star Citizen).

Funny side note, it's Not just an EVE thing lol.


ive also noticed an increase of the players online during the weekend 43k usually now, was like 33-37k so they are doing something right?

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Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#37 - 2014-11-23 19:10:10 UTC
Nuran Mukadder wrote:
I just re-subbed because of that trailer. I couldn't control myself.

What can I say? I missed Space Spreadsheets Online.


Same here. My favourite FC has moved on (Trant) but I will find a way.

I did resub after this film but I have been waiting for an excuse for a long time....

Aaaaaaand relax.

Famine Aligher'ri
Sheriff.
United Caldari Space Command.
#38 - 2014-11-23 19:52:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Famine Aligher'ri
Jenn aSide wrote:
Famine Aligher'ri wrote:


EVE will continue to thrive off their niche market for another 10 years because at the end of the day, you don't need millions of players to still be successful. They could likely run this game on much, much lower for a very long time.


I think you're right, EVE could survive with a lot less subscribers and still be profitable enough to continue, though I don't see that ever happening. The main people who think "EVE is dying" are the people who kind of want it to (almost) die so that CCP will change the game more towards their personal rpeferences. This is why EVERYTIME a new game is announced, they same old crew proclaims it will kill EVE (the short list is SWG, SWTOR, Black Prophecy, Jumpgate, Star Trek Online and now Elite + Star Citizen).


Well, it depends on the business operations behind closed doors, but I would suspect CCP could run EVE online with a very small development team and very small operations team with a very small player base for a very long time on very little resources.

That's just my 2 cents though. I've been in EVE for 10 years and have worked in the industry (now retired) for some years too. EVE is an amazing game that has really captured their audience. To think they need WoW numbers to survive is really saying EVE should have died a long time ago. Then to question their strategy having faced amazing odds is to say you don't know EVE at all. Those of us who have been here when CCP took the journey to where it is today already know the are in this for the very long haul.

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Rhea Rankin Nolen
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#39 - 2014-11-23 20:48:11 UTC
Jayem See wrote:
Nuran Mukadder wrote:
I just re-subbed because of that trailer. I couldn't control myself.

What can I say? I missed Space Spreadsheets Online.


Same here. My favourite FC has moved on (Trant) but I will find a way.

I did resub after this film but I have been waiting for an excuse for a long time....



Same here, been almost a year. Trailer just gave me that fuzzy warm feeling inside, and I just couldn't resist resubbing!

Like what has been done, like all the upcoming changes, but feel the UI modernization needs some more polish. Dat icons. What?

Other than that go CCP! Big smile
Solops Crendraven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2014-11-23 21:27:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Solops Crendraven
Sol Project wrote:
Tarpedo wrote:
WoW added almost 50% players (subscribers?) after recent expansion - 3 millions total. Suddenly, instead of stagnating game we have explosive growth.

I hope one day EVE management will realize that no trailer, battle-based PR, empty promises, re-skins, debugs/balance may be compared to financial effect of actual expansion of gameplay.

p.s. interesting method to create a trailer.

There's always that one guy who doesn't get it.

I agree with Her Somewhat theres more to Growing a Player Base however I wont go into details. The facts are WOW has over 30k viewers on twitch Tv and7.8 subscribers playerbase so it does win the Popularity contest. I will give credit due CCP is trying to save this game maybe If they Do a Game of thrones tv series called Eve Who knows maybe it will get is 1 million more subscribers a day (CCP if you ever do cast a TV series PM at http://www.twitch.tv/s0lo/profile) The queston How is Eve Online going to aquire at least 1 million subscribers and of course not die?

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