Wormholes

This effects all of new Eden,.. And it is also a very good idea.

Just a quick one.

When you right click/show info on the J123456 system name/number, you get a Solar System: information page.

It should say there, in the description, what are the environmental effects of your current system and what class of wh you are in.

Currently, I think, the only way to get that information is from online databases.

So, please add the wh class and environmental effects to the solar system information page.

I would agree with all of this. Including leaving the ability to "solo" the C5 data/relic sites. This represents some of the more exciting (tense/anxiety inducing) moments in Eve PVE because in many cases you're totally vulnerable for the duration of the endeavor.


I disagree with this. Anything that keeps a pilot active and in space (and especially vulnerable to attack) is good. Leaving the hacking mechanic as it currently is (unlimited attempts) in wspace means that for those with lower skills, lower equipment or bad luck remain vulnerable longer. This is good. It provides opportunity to hunt them and engage them. If the mechanic is changed to blow up after two failed attempts that just means those pilots are on field for a shorter amount of time. This is bad for the hunters.

I don't think altering this mechanic would have any significant impact on the prices of the relic materials. If we look at kspace as a comparison values of salvage for relic loot and data (lol) has been dropping for a long time now. This is because there are more people in general doing exploration thanks the Odyssey "nerf" and that's even with the explode after two fails already. So it hasn't had aneffect on moving the price up at all. This problem (more explorers) is compounded in wspace because there isn't much utility for that relic loot and the main use of it (T3) has seen a drop in usage over time. Some of the changes that CCP is making (T3 dessies and whatever else they do) might have a positive effect on the values of this material over time.

If that is what you took away from my comment you should reread it without the "grr farmers, grr hunters" whatever it is you have going on. I've got absolutely nothing against "newbros" in wspace. Nothing. You're way off base on this one. That said, it's slightly unlikely for "newbros" to be soloing C5 data/relic sites in the first place, nevermind successfully. Besides, newbros are far from the only people who do not so smart things in space while not paying attention to their surroundings.

The actual TL;DR if you really want one (though my comment's length wasn't very long in the first place);
More pilots in space outside of POS shields and uncloaked doing "things" is better for all involved.



No disagreement on this point. I also think that the "Polarized" weapons and incoming T3 Destroyers will help in this regard. I'd also not be surprised to find that CCP has other unannounced additions that will leverage this material.


You should read - it's been suggested many times over.



Again? lol wut? This is still the dominant method to run cap escalations.......

I still have no idea what any of this has to do with "new guys". And what arbitrary number are you referring to? Currently, there's no arbitrary number involved in hacking wspace sites. You try until you succeed. Period. That could be first attempt and 20s or it could be half a dozen and 4-5 minutes. In that time it's possible for someone else to spot you doing things and start looking for you. It's content. Hunter/Hunted.

Would appear that there are still lots of people doing the old standard triage/loki/etc. Seems a fleet of them dies each week at least.


To get back on topic; I don't see a change in profitability of Relic loot or Data loot by introducing the can explosion. It has had no impact on the profitability of kspace data/relic loot.

What about making the sig timer 4 days for anoms, that way you dont have them clogging up a system that somebody can then drop a tower down and farm like a mofo, 4 days after they spawn they die, makes for a more fluid set of holes

longer despawn timer someone stack its sites in their home and some day someone warps to each site and activate the timers. afer few days the sites are gone and hole is empty.

sites should despawn when they are done if you warp it but warp out you start timers. site should last as long as last sleeper in combat anom and as long as last rock last in ore

add scannable sleeper combat sites like we have unrated and deadspace sites in hihg/low/null we shud have sleeper deadspaces

make ore sites scannable and extend their lifetime

I think most would agree with you regarding the ore sites being a signature again.

Whilst it may have value for nullsec as it now is, in wormhole space it is simply not sane to mine unless the hole is completely buttoned up, and then of course it does not matter one way or another.

In a wormhole without total hole control it is simple insanity to attempt to mine ore.
So people do not. It is not increasing risk. It is removing it, as accepting that level of risk is not a valid choice

It would be nice to see miners in space again for all the reasons, and that will not happen until it become reasonable to do so.

And I second your positive thoughts on the upcoming changes.
Possibly the new ice and ore belts in the shattered space may reduce the level of risk from suicidal to merely extraordinarily high.
I have not heard if those will be an anomoly or a signature, hopefully the latter.

I like that, but let the ore not despawn, so you can bookmark it and switch ships, the prospect would thrive in that site, hard to scan down, but still vunerable to a smart scanner if the miner was not cautious. I believe people used to do this in mission deadspace areas in Kspace? Maybe they still do.

Nice idea.

Disclaimer, I personally do not enjoy mining, but something to hunt that is not the equivalent of having ones prey tied down would be nice, not that one sees miners any more other than the terminally careless or bait, (mostly bait).

Instead of trying to make wormhole mining safer make it more productive. Remove regular ores and add super dense ores in more limited supply. Have the time it takes to clear a sites about the same as gas sites. However ore size should favor mining barges not so much ventures.

If you did this you would defiantly have more people mining and more targets for people to shoot at.