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Dev Blog - A new look for EVE’s UI – feedback needed!

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Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#501 - 2014-11-20 06:46:57 UTC
Would just like to point out the transparent shifting can be very annoying, nice to have the ability to toggle that, but I love the revamped aura and icons, they're different, sure, but they look great.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#502 - 2014-11-20 07:06:09 UTC
CCP Darwin wrote:
Malou Hashur wrote:
You all realise that there is absolutely no point in posting anything further in this thread ?

It’s 11 days since the last post by a Dev, they stopped looking at this thread a while back. This will be shipped as they want it, NOT as we want it. No change there.


Reset your counter to 0.

The UI developers are still keeping an eye on feedback, even if they do not answer every question or comment in this thread. If you (dear reader) have feedback you haven't offered, you can post it in the thread you're in, or in this thread from the Test Server Feedback forum:

UI Modernization preview - Feedback and issues

I don't have much hope for the part 2 of the UI that remains to be seen, but what I am impressed by is your participation in this thread, and your tone. Over the last six months or so, I've constantly wondered how / why devs haven't developed a thicker skin to hurf with the big boys about their toys. You're one of the newest devs I know of, yet here you are communicating in the way we've become used to, with a hint of sarcasm and contempt. I interpret it as a sign that you're in touch with EVE-O culture, and that we're finally reaching someone.

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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#503 - 2014-11-20 10:56:06 UTC
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lexa21
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#504 - 2014-11-20 14:45:02 UTC
Dear CCP, every patch you miss "dont use new stuff" button there are getting warmer in the world from players buttfire. Its your ice is melting down.
Tass Caffington
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#505 - 2014-11-20 14:52:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Tass Caffington
Rain6637 wrote:
The day that spreadsheets became charts.

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Link to the original post.


dear ccp,

the above post is brilliant. read: the design ideas are much better than everything I see on SiSi - at least in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I like your approach much better than the stuff we see on TQ now but I like the above design much more.

just my 0.02 ISK...

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Noriko Mai
#506 - 2014-11-20 16:20:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Noriko Mai
Please remove the pen from the journal icon. Open book/magazine with pen in my opinion means I can write something down if I click on that thing. Better move the pen to the notepad icon. Oh and please fix Aura of course Smile

And I still think the icons need some kind of invisible frame that is used for the scale of every icon. I think that's the reason why smartphone icons usually have some kind of consistent background for every icon. This way they avoid irregular gaps between icons. Maybe some icons can be changed only a little to get a more "rectangular" look.

In my opinion the new rifter icon instead of the stylized ship icon (in fitting and insurance) is a step backwards. It's not only harder to recognize but also way less generic.

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Castelo Selva
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#507 - 2014-11-20 16:38:22 UTC
Dear CCPs,

Please, put the ISIS icon on overview and space.
If you are not confident with the time frame for next release, put it at least in the overview.
I will be very happy with an opt-in feature for this, no rush for public realese.
Thank you.

Castelo

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Worrff
Enterprise Holdings
#508 - 2014-11-20 20:50:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Worrff
CCP Darwin wrote:
Malou Hashur wrote:
You all realise that there is absolutely no point in posting anything further in this thread ?

It’s 11 days since the last post by a Dev, they stopped looking at this thread a while back. This will be shipped as they want it, NOT as we want it. No change there.


Reset your counter to 0.

The UI developers are still keeping an eye on feedback, even if they do not answer every question or comment in this thread. If you (dear reader) have feedback you haven't offered, you can post it in the thread you're in, or in this thread from the Test Server Feedback forum:

UI Modernization preview - Feedback and issues


No one expects you to "answer every question or comment in this thread".

I don't think that ONE, just ONE comment in 11 days on either of these threads, is too much to ask. Really.

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Jackie Cane
Chaos Gate
#509 - 2014-11-21 06:47:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Jackie Cane
Uummm.... well if I can put the old neocom icons back i guess I won't start screaming profanity at my computer screen.
Hollow PANZER1233000
Monkey Attack Squad
Goonswarm Federation
#510 - 2014-11-21 07:16:53 UTC
GIVE ME KEY BACK OLD UI EvilEvilEvil

I dont like play in stupid windows 8!!!
St Lamarque
Dusk Mirror
#511 - 2014-11-21 11:54:08 UTC
Malou Hashur wrote:
You all realise that there is absolutely no point in posting anything further in this thread ?

That is why I have only 1 time expressed their negative opinion. It was immediately clear that the devs do not pay attention to the feedback, which is not endorse the new UI.
Kej Lacitis
Space Mechanics
#512 - 2014-11-21 12:16:51 UTC
Dear CCPs,
Please, do not change Aura`s icon.
Thank you.
Winter Unicorn
Requiem For Freedom
#513 - 2014-11-21 12:20:42 UTC
New interface icons are very ugly in comparison with the old ones.

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X4me1eoH
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#514 - 2014-11-21 15:46:47 UTC
Return RGB settings !!!!

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Arsine Mayhem
Doomheim
#515 - 2014-11-21 16:40:43 UTC
Vigilanta wrote:
looks cool, but one question. If we prefer the old UI, will we be able to choose to use the old one instead? I remind you of like every other time we have been forced in to the mandatory upgrade and what has resulted.


Oh you mean like Dec '05 when they changed the font and many of us couldn't read anything.

That was 7 years of closed account. WOD is nice though.
Arsine Mayhem
Doomheim
#516 - 2014-11-21 18:31:44 UTC
CCP Claymore wrote:
COMM4NDER wrote:
Please please also have a look on performance!
Currently even small things like chat blink can drop FPS by quite a notch and hiding UI improves it like night and day so please consider performance.

Other than that it looks really nice, gonna try this out in wine asap.


Performance testing is happening as you type.

We are very conscious of making these changes and that not all players are running quad sli titans. We will be striving to have the best possible performance for min spec machines.


Probably should have thought of that when you did the stargate animation. This game engine isn't exactly optimized for animations.
13kr1d1
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#517 - 2014-11-22 02:42:41 UTC  |  Edited by: 13kr1d1
Don't ruin the sidebar by jumping on the simple-simpleton 2D grayscale bandwagon just because other well known systems are doing it. Some people like the feel of the colorful 3D objects.

Arsine Mayhem wrote:
CCP Claymore wrote:
COMM4NDER wrote:
Please please also have a look on performance!
Currently even small things like chat blink can drop FPS by quite a notch and hiding UI improves it like night and day so please consider performance.

Other than that it looks really nice, gonna try this out in wine asap.


Performance testing is happening as you type.

We are very conscious of making these changes and that not all players are running quad sli titans. We will be striving to have the best possible performance for min spec machines.


Probably should have thought of that when you did the stargate animation. This game engine isn't exactly optimized for animations.


It's strange to me how little rendering is actually on screen polygon wise, and yet performance is worse than WoW. My machine can barely play Eve as it is, and it was an upgrade from the machine that could play the old client of eve before they axed dual-clients for the "new and improved" one. Yeah, not improved performance wise. CCP lost money for quite a long time due to not having a machine specced for Eve after they ripped away the old dual client.

Don't kid yourselves. Even the dirtiest pirates from the birth of EVE have been carebears. They use alts to bring them goods at cheap prices and safely, rather than live with consequences of their in game actions on their main, from concord to prices
Makari Aeron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#518 - 2014-11-22 21:44:37 UTC
1. These new colorsets are terrible for colorblind people.
2. This is pretty much the "illusion of choice". Give me the slider back please. I don't like being forced to choose presets.
3. I don't like the 'always fade to transparent", i want to see all my text windows as they currently are

All in all, I don't like this. Sure, the client is more crisp and clean but the icons are monocolored (which I find to be bland compared to the previous edition) and I can't have crazy awesome UI colors anymore.

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Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#519 - 2014-11-23 02:22:06 UTC
CCP Nullarbor wrote:
Antoine Jordan wrote:
From the screenshot and gif, I love most of the changes, but abhor the blur. I would much prefer only transparency modification, with no blurring whatsoever. It's distracting, and takes away from the crispness that I've come to think of as a hallmark of EVE graphics.


The blur can be disabled with a graphics setting.

Yes but that setting also makes icons in the neocom harder to distinguish as the background becomes, well, transparent.

My opinions are mine.

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It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S
Affirmative.
#520 - 2014-11-23 04:03:02 UTC
Overall the new UI Looks good, however the blurred Window thing is very bad on the eyes. As an industrialist, it is not uncommon for me to have most of my screen covered in windows, to the point that probably less than 1/9th of the space scene is actually visible, and my eyes end up trying to focus on the majority of the screen with is blurred/Out of Focus

!!! There needs to be options for turning off the blur. !!!

Also been a few days since I was testing it out, (currently at Eve Down Under), but the highlights for the black pre-set seemed too bright, needs a Dark Gray instead of bright nearly White/Grey