Player Features and Ideas Discussion

1) Good idea. Maybe limit insurance to toons less than 90 days old. So new players aren't hit too hard from ship losses while they are still learning.

2) Good idea.

3) I'm not sure about this. I don't think people should be able to strand themselves somewhere with no ability to make ISK or leave the system they are in without said ISK. Maybe if pods were always free.

4) I'm not sure market fees are the right way to do it. This just attacks the players that move ISK around instead of the ones that actually make it. I think bumping NPC corp tax up by 1% would be more helpful.

So an anonymous player posts saying that we need isk sinks cause there's too much isk, and demands that the mechanic that helps keep PvP happening in the game (Insurance) be gutted, that sov costs be tripled, ratting income be halved... Effectively gutting the only things that makes living and fighting in nullsec or lowsec worthwhile.

Also special posting to make sure that the only mechanic he cares about "Missions and LP stores" not be touched.

Here's my proposal: Keep NPC pirates BS and BC, as well as ships of opposing factions from the empire, out of Concord controlled space. Faction Police, Concord, regulated gates... There are plenty of mechanics by which which this could happen.

Reducing missions to Lv 1-3 missions that only spawn frigs, dessies, and cruisers would cut down on the massive spigot that is hordes of mission runners running missions, forcing them to either go to low/null to run their missions, or accept the lower pay of a capsuleer beat cop policing up the small ships that the empires couldn't completely stamp out.


Or on a slightly less "My way or the highway" proposed action, you could drastically decrease the amount of ISK gained by shooting rats in highsec and missions (to 10% or so), and implement an LP reward from the Empire owner for cleaning up their space. Kill a rat in a mission, get Amarr Navy LP if missioning in Amarr space.

Since LP Stores are isk sinks instead of faucets, this wuld rapidly switch the highsec mission faucet into a sink instead.


P.S: A degree of inflation is expected in a system like EVE's, PLEX is the only item that is displaying massively different behavior than the rest of the item basket. Don't judge the entire system by the one item with special value. Aside from PLEX's, the rest of the item basket is relatively stable, certainly not indicating any special drastic need for slashing ingame income.

-crew wages
-ship maintenance

Kick incursions in the baws, less isk and less whining about shinies in the Tug.

Goddamn, I'm good. Oh yeah, semi-permanent attribute boosters are the future, embrace them for their genius and all your isk sink needs

+1 for non-market isk sinks

the last 30 days cost me plenty in fees and taxes. I think that's quite enough.

I don't buy insurance so nerf that however you want.

Gate fees are stupid because, well, that's stupid. Unless I can warp from Jita to Rens without gates (probably ~5 days in a mammoth ~17 hours in a leopard.)

ISK sinks should be a thing you somehow op-in for (like buying LP stuff or losing a ship to a gank fleet) using gates is mandatory therefore should not cost ISK.

So basically: Nerf ISK but only if it wont nerf *my* isk

When I hear the word "crew" about eve, I always think of a feature of which is available but not implemented yet. I know it is there, but it has no use. I hope, someday, we have increasingly higher wages for veteran crews. That way, people will have more stuff to do when they decide to watch ship-turning counter.

Well, instead of trying to find the 1 source of isk faucet or sink that is causing our economy to fail, why not just increase the isk sinks by 5% across the board, and decrease the isk faucets by 5% across the board. Suddenly, we now have 10% less isk inflation in the game, and everyone gets hit equally when their activities are printing isk in the game.

The issue with suggestions regarding nerfing insurance is that they assume that inflation is more of an issue than people not PvPing.

The game runs on PvP. You buy a ship, insure a ship, run out and in said ship. You then take the money you got from the insurance and turn around and can immediately afford most of another ship. This money is what keeps demand for miners/inventors/producers products high. Anyone remember when Trit was barely over 1 isk a few years ago when the map was incredibly stagnant?
I do.

This basic cycle drives the market, keep PvP players in business, and lowers the barrier for conflicts to occur.

Risking a dread fleet when you can recoup 2/3 the cost of a fitted dread when it dies is a hell of a lot easier than risking a dread that has no payout. It's as if the risk of fielding them suddenly triples.

If lowers the barrier for "worth fighting over"

Got a________ moon you want to start a fight over? Is it worth risking a fleet that's a 3 bil loss to replace in the case of a total whelp over? Sure. Why not.

Is it worth risking a 10 bil (the exact same ships and # of people mind you) to fight over? Naaaah, **** that.

Eve inflation is a questionable problem at best. By questionable I mean in if it's a problem at all. Even healthy RL economies consider a certain amount of constant inflation to be healthy. And RL don't flip flip their **** and start cutting/raising taxes by half jsut because one commodity (lets say gold) increases at 4x the rate of inflation.


So is inflation an issue? MAYBE
Is it as big of an issue as creating a major deterrent to PvP in Eve? Not a chance in hell.

removing insurance will just keep isk from being injected to someone that decided to use insurance to replace their ship, also it only works for t1 ships. for the people that do use it (most of eve doesn't) if they lose their ship they can get a new one if they didnt have a bankroll saved up
IE you buy a mega and in the process of missioning to a better ship or mods, you die horribly but you had insurance you can get a new mega and have to replace modules, instead restarting from a frigate or how ever much you had before your mega met an untimely end.
I would go for if you dont insure you get 0 back and not 50% default with no insurace maybe

Also losing a ship is not an isk sink, CCP totes that most of the market is player controlled (i hear 90% figures in empire) based on your location, in outpost its 100% player controlled and theres even a higher percentage in null npc.
But unless you buy something seeded by a npc (which most of the time you dont) the ISK just changes hands from 1 player to another minus some tax.

lol no.