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[HOLY COW] Sleepers, Jovians, and the 'Other'

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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#41 - 2014-11-21 03:19:18 UTC
Jvpiter wrote:
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:

Now, along with this, we have seen a number of communiques from Hilen Tukoss recently ( [1][2][3] ). The first two were cryptic and filled with hexadecimal code. They requested for the body parts of Misu Baniya, which were distributed in 2004, to be donated to Site One, the Arek'Jaalan research facility in Eram.

However, the third message is very different. It is a broken communication from Tukoss, seemingly telling us that he is being held by someone or something, and that Site One has been compromised. The first time I read this, I immediately thought that either the Sleepers were acting maliciously in some way, or that the 'Other' is scheming something using the parts. But with today's message, I have realized that something much, much bigger may be happening.



As an aside, this Hilen Tukoss is a CCP account that has been creating content on the lore front. At first I believed it was just a player, but it's interesting to see CCP actively drive a story that connects back to upcoming expansions.



Yes, he was heavily involved with all of the WH and Arek'Jaalan goings-on a few years ago- once he returned, I knew something was up- and then "he" started asking for Baniya's parts- I actually donated an Epidermis Sliver. And now, with what seems to be happening now, I'm glad to give to the Sleepers.

"A City made of Dreams is built in heaven"
Anslo
Scope Works
#42 - 2014-11-21 03:26:47 UTC
After 7 years in eve all I can say is this...

Lock and load, ladies and gentlemen.

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NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#43 - 2014-11-21 03:32:43 UTC
Anslo wrote:
After 7 years in eve all I can say is this...

Lock and load, ladies and gentlemen.

War, what is it good for?
My profits!
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Now if only Falcon had listened when we were trying to do stuff with the shattered villiard wheels, this corp wouldnt have been wasted
Darn you A9, you had to not pull through with that!
Anslo
Scope Works
#44 - 2014-11-21 03:37:05 UTC
Meh. Forget the wheels. The question is this though. Why would the 'others' works be bad? The sleepers made a disease. The Jove meddled in the development of humanity for a whole lot of selfish purposes.

So, I gotta ask... Why help the Sleepers and Jove?

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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#45 - 2014-11-21 03:48:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Anslo wrote:
Meh. Forget the wheels. The question is this though. Why would the 'others' works be bad? The sleepers made a disease. The Jove meddled in the development of humanity for a whole lot of selfish purposes.

So, I gotta ask... Why help the Sleepers and Jove?

It's true, we have no idea what the 'Other''s aims are- but at the same time, we know it wants to take humanity for itself.

So we have no enidence for why we should choose either side- but I'd rather side with the last vestiges of original humanity than an AI like this one P But if I learn anything, I will always take it into consideration.

Also, forget shattered wheels- what do I do with my Villard Wheels? They're huge!

"A City made of Dreams is built in heaven"
Anslo
Scope Works
#46 - 2014-11-21 03:50:46 UTC
Here's a better solution. As a ~great~ FC once said, "just kill them breh." Kill ALL of them. Both sides.

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Jvpiter
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#47 - 2014-11-21 04:40:07 UTC
Anslo wrote:
The Jove meddled in the development of humanity for a whole lot of selfish purposes.


That may be so, but the technological advancement made by the Jove are second to none, to this day. If the Jovian Disease was a Sleeper-made artificial ceiling to this advancement, then mankind can seek to benefit from the Disease being cured.


If anything, the Empires are stunting the growth of humanity with religion, politics, and slavery. Imagine what Capsuleers could accomplish if they were truly one with technology, instead of the inept and experimental immortality which has such great limitations in space, consciousness, and time.



Call me Joe.
Cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
#48 - 2014-11-21 06:00:09 UTC
Haven't you heard? The "Harvest" is coming soon... to cleanse the galaxy. End of the the year cleaning for all of New Eden. Jita will burn, so Thera can take it's place. Farewell Jita.

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Jove Eden
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2014-11-21 07:20:19 UTC
God created man

Jove created me

nice post op
Falken Falcon
#50 - 2014-11-21 07:41:23 UTC
Hmm.. Awesome

Aye, Sea Turtles
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#51 - 2014-11-21 08:19:15 UTC
I really really like this stuff. Someone give me more free time so I can catch-up with that whole storyline Big smile

Evil RatKid
Ryder 'ook
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2014-11-21 09:01:19 UTC
Kill them all and let their gods sort them out!

Every atom in our bodies was forged in the furnace of ancient stars - it's time we return home.
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#53 - 2014-11-21 09:42:09 UTC
Anslo wrote:
The Jove meddled in the development of humanity for a whole lot of selfish purposes.

The Jove are humanity.
The Khanid Kings and the Sleepers... I'm not so sure any more.
Lister Dax
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2014-11-21 09:49:40 UTC
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:

The second, posted yesterday, contains an enormous cloaked structure and a ship in the distance.


Well, sleeper cloaking tech is rubbish then!
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#55 - 2014-11-21 11:06:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Abrazzar
Alright, another question: What are the rogue drones about? Are they another aspect of the Other, a creation of the Jove/Sleepers to recreate the birthing of the Other in order to understand it or actually a new emergent infomorph like the Other?

Maybe the Prophecy of Macaper “what was many now becomes one when one becomes four” means the Rogue Drones unite into a emergent hive infomorph (many become one) and the number of non-empire parties working behind the scenes is revealed to be not just one, but four, the Jove, the Sleepers, the Other and the Drones.

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stoicfaux
#56 - 2014-11-21 12:53:55 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:

Well, if I may speculate, I'd say the Jove resurrected Sansha from old DNA and a cerebral scan they keep in backup (as with every capsuleer, after all it's our brains they study in hopes to find out what broke theirs) and promoted his forces with bits of their technology to create a force they can use against whoever exposes themselves as a threat towards them.

Nope. Sansha's incursions are a training program. Seriously, if you had the ability to create wormholes into normal space and had a seemingly unlimited supply of ships, why would you continually lose? Why is no ground being taken and held? Why aren't worlds and stations being burned? Why are invasions designed to invite defeat in detail?

The incursions are thus a training program (i.e. war games for immortals) to get the capsuleers ready for the real fight to come.

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Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
#57 - 2014-11-21 13:09:03 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:

Well, if I may speculate, I'd say the Jove resurrected Sansha from old DNA and a cerebral scan they keep in backup (as with every capsuleer, after all it's our brains they study in hopes to find out what broke theirs) and promoted his forces with bits of their technology to create a force they can use against whoever exposes themselves as a threat towards them.

Nope. Sansha's incursions are a training program. Seriously, if you had the ability to create wormholes into normal space and had a seemingly unlimited supply of ships, why would you continually lose? Why is no ground being taken and held? Why aren't worlds and stations being burned? Why are invasions designed to invite defeat in detail?

The incursions are thus a training program (i.e. war games for immortals) to get the capsuleers ready for the real fight to come.

Maybe also reconnaisance in force, check what we're up to and how we're coping. OTOH why would they care about holding planets in k-space prior to a serious invasion attempt?
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#58 - 2014-11-21 14:13:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
I think that's Talocan thing, this Other. Talocans made it to destroy Sleepers.

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Jean Luc Lemmont
Carebears on Fire
#59 - 2014-11-21 16:14:38 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Here's a better solution. As a ~great~ FC once said, "just kill them breh." Kill ALL of them. Both sides.


Kill them all.
Let God sort them out.

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CCP Falcon
#60 - 2014-11-21 16:18:18 UTC
ISD LackOfFaith wrote:
I'm... confused. What's going on?


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