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New player ----> Skill points
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Mal Shazihz
Iron Whales
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2011-12-14 23:56:14 UTC
I was wondering if there was anything boosts availlable for new players to get skill points faster in any way?

Even tho I am making good ISK, I just started and I am WAY behind in skill points compared to everyone else.

I know implants help a bit but is there any other options for a new player to get more Skill points?

thanks

MaL
gfldex
#2 - 2011-12-15 00:02:29 UTC
Mal Shazihz wrote:
I just started and I am WAY behind in skill points compared to everyone else.


That would require you to be the last player to join EVE. I don't think we are there yet.

Mal Shazihz wrote:
I know implants help a bit but is there any other options for a new player to get more Skill points?


You could lose all self respect and buy a char.

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Mal Shazihz
Iron Whales
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2011-12-15 00:12:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Mal Shazihz
gfldex wrote:

You could lose all self respect and buy a char.


haha i would never do something like that, the biggest fun in the game, is startling something of your own and getting it better stronger on your own.

But that pretty much answer my question thanks :) I was just wondering about a *newbie* boost for like a couple days or something

oh and by behind in SP I mean I'm playing with a friend with about 35 millions skill points and I'd like to join him in his missions and stuff faster if possible hehe
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#4 - 2011-12-15 00:33:29 UTC
Cerebral Accelerator (make sure to read the description of it)

and if not that then just attribute implants....the skills you train pertain to which implants you'll want...or you can get a full set of 5 and be good....

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#5 - 2011-12-15 11:04:48 UTC
Mal Shazihz wrote:
Even tho I am making good ISK, I just started and I am WAY behind in skill points compared to everyone else.


Skill points aren't everything. With a month of training, you'll be able to fly a rifter better than me: I'm at about 60M SP, but I can't fly frigates or use the weapons on them.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2011-12-15 11:17:21 UTC
1.) You will never catch up on SP to a character that has been around EVE for couple of years.
2.) The amount of SP doesn't mean you are 'better' then the other, it's how you fly your ship and how much experiance you have in certain things.

Both of the above mentioned things is making EVE much more fun then for instance any other XP-grinding MMO.

On the Cerebral Accelerator, that offer ended somewhere in the end of November so that may not be possible anymore.

You can increase your SP gain in 2 ways:

1.) Implants (slot 1 - 5) which cost ISK but cut down on your skill times.
2.) Remap, this can be done 2 - 3 times after that you have to wait a full year (365day) before you can remap again. Each skill in EVE has 2 attributes linked to them (primary and secondary) if you buff those attributes it means you can skill any skill with those attributes faster. Remaps are best done when you have made a long skill plan to optimize your attributes.

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#7 - 2011-12-15 16:21:15 UTC
Mal Shazihz wrote:
gfldex wrote:

You could lose all self respect and buy a char.


haha i would never do something like that, the biggest fun in the game, is startling something of your own and getting it better stronger on your own.

But that pretty much answer my question thanks :) I was just wondering about a *newbie* boost for like a couple days or something

oh and by behind in SP I mean I'm playing with a friend with about 35 millions skill points and I'd like to join him in his missions and stuff faster if possible hehe



so, your mate has been in the game about 18 months, maybe a little longer. You'll be able to fly L4 missions solo within 3-4.

Get EveMon, and get yourself a training plan to fit up a Battlecruiser or Battleship. I can't check right now, but essentially follow the recommended certificates will put you on track.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Mal Shazihz
Iron Whales
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2011-12-15 18:52:15 UTC
Velicitia wrote:


so, your mate has been in the game about 18 months, maybe a little longer. You'll be able to fly L4 missions solo within 3-4.

Get EveMon, and get yourself a training plan to fit up a Battlecruiser or Battleship. I can't check right now, but essentially follow the recommended certificates will put you on track.



Yeah I downloaded EveMon, I was aiming for a Tech3 cruiser, the Legion, But it takes about 50days to be able to and then another 40 days to be good in it.
Now I'm more interested in the Nightmare because it takes only 9 days to fly and then I could slowly Skill up the be better at it after.
Mal Shazihz
Iron Whales
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2011-12-15 18:54:20 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
1.) You will never catch up on SP to a character that has been around EVE for couple of years.
2.) The amount of SP doesn't mean you are 'better' then the other, it's how you fly your ship and how much experiance you have in certain things.

Both of the above mentioned things is making EVE much more fun then for instance any other XP-grinding MMO.

On the Cerebral Accelerator, that offer ended somewhere in the end of November so that may not be possible anymore.

You can increase your SP gain in 2 ways:

1.) Implants (slot 1 - 5) which cost ISK but cut down on your skill times.
2.) Remap, this can be done 2 - 3 times after that you have to wait a full year (365day) before you can remap again. Each skill in EVE has 2 attributes linked to them (primary and secondary) if you buff those attributes it means you can skill any skill with those attributes faster. Remaps are best done when you have made a long skill plan to optimize your attributes.



I already Remaped my attributes ( even if Its not perfect ) It did save me a couple days of training for my *goal* ships training. And I currently use +2 implants on all slots since I'm a little affraid to invest for better ones and just dying xD
Velicitia
XS Tech
#10 - 2011-12-15 19:17:14 UTC
well, if you're missioning ... you don't need to worry about the implants (rats won't pod you).

you might have the skills in 9d for the nightmare, but...

... you won't have the fitting skills
... you can't afford to fly it
... you will DIAF very quickly

Stick to something smaller (and also not so expensive), maybe a raven or a drake.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Mal Shazihz
Iron Whales
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2011-12-15 20:22:10 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
well, if you're missioning ... you don't need to worry about the implants (rats won't pod you).

you might have the skills in 9d for the nightmare, but...

... you won't have the fitting skills
... you can't afford to fly it
... you will DIAF very quickly

Stick to something smaller (and also not so expensive), maybe a raven or a drake.


Yeah I know I still need to get some ISK anyway to Fly it, by that time I should have decent skills for it. I made 550M so far this week and I played 12 days total so far

Still on trial account tho so I cant do lv 3-4 missions yet.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#12 - 2011-12-15 20:54:41 UTC
you might be able to afford to purchase it ... that doesn't mean that you can afford to fly it.

The most important rule in EVE is "Don't fly what you can't afford to lose". It is sometimes said as "If you can't afford to insure it, you can't afford to fly it" or "If you can't afford two of something, you can't afford one".

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2011-12-15 22:39:12 UTC
Also being able to sit in a ship doesn't mean you can fly it.

I can sit in all races up to BS, can't properly fit out most of them as I lack most of the needed skills for them.

So yes, training nightmare takes 9 days. Core skills will take up another 10 days or so, not to mention the skills you need to properly fit out your nightmare (T2 / Meta fittings)

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Mal Shazihz
Iron Whales
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2011-12-15 22:51:00 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Also being able to sit in a ship doesn't mean you can fly it.

I can sit in all races up to BS, can't properly fit out most of them as I lack most of the needed skills for them.

So yes, training nightmare takes 9 days. Core skills will take up another 10 days or so, not to mention the skills you need to properly fit out your nightmare (T2 / Meta fittings)



Yeah thanks for the replies guys : )
I guess ill start with something else in the same branch of skills like maybe an Abaddon or Apoc or maybe Armagedon? Cheaper and I will still be able to do lv 4 missions fairly fast?
but still It would be faster than training for T3 strategic cruisers right?
Velicitia
XS Tech
#15 - 2011-12-15 23:11:32 UTC
you're still jumping the gun there mate.

Get good in the small ships. in eve bigger <> better. You will diaf surprisingly fast in a BS with low support skills, as compared to a smaller ship, because the smaller ships are more nimble and can speed tank a little more effectively.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Mal Shazihz
Iron Whales
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2011-12-15 23:15:17 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
you're still jumping the gun there mate.

Get good in the small ships. in eve bigger <> better. You will diaf surprisingly fast in a BS with low support skills, as compared to a smaller ship, because the smaller ships are more nimble and can speed tank a little more effectively.


I see, I don't know much about speed tanking, I went into lv 2 missions with my coercer ( destroyer ) and I fitted it with lots of speed ( moving at about 700m/s constant ) and I was getting destroyed pretty fast even with some defence mods.

With my maller it wasnt that bad but still had a hard times sometimes. At least I could take the beating lol
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2011-12-15 23:22:24 UTC
In general in EVE, work your way up steadily

First try to be decent with flying frigates.

When you mastered frigates, go for destroyers

Destroyers > Cruisers > Battlecruiser > Battleships

Don't rush stuff, like said, Bigger isn't always better.

If you having a hard time with a cruiser, it will certainly get your Battleship blown up. They are big, with means even easier targets for those rats to shoot at. If you can't tank a cruiser properly for lvl 2's you can't tank a battleship good eighter as that will take more skills and knowledge then a cruiser does.

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#18 - 2011-12-16 00:10:40 UTC
Mal Shazihz wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
you're still jumping the gun there mate.

Get good in the small ships. in eve bigger <> better. You will diaf surprisingly fast in a BS with low support skills, as compared to a smaller ship, because the smaller ships are more nimble and can speed tank a little more effectively.


I see, I don't know much about speed tanking, I went into lv 2 missions with my coercer ( destroyer ) and I fitted it with lots of speed ( moving at about 700m/s constant ) and I was getting destroyed pretty fast even with some defence mods.

With my maller it wasnt that bad but still had a hard times sometimes. At least I could take the beating lol


because you were doing it "wrong" (most likely).

what I meant with the speed tanking was that, because your ship is faster/more agile, you're more or less orbiting the rats your shooting, or flying randomly, or kiting. with a battleship, it's more "land in the pocket, burn over to one group, sit there and chew them up ... repeat"

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Klown Walk
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2011-12-16 04:30:15 UTC
Don´t worry so much about sp. It doesn´t take that much sp to max out a ship.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2011-12-16 07:21:35 UTC
I remember being in this boat... 5.5 years later I just don't care anymore Straight

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