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CODE. - New Order Decoded

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Caretaker Tora
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-11-21 11:03:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Caretaker Tora
As the mail send to "The Marmite Collective" was faster on pastbin, then most members read it, I might as well post a part of it in C&P :


Times, people and alliances change, but not always for the best. My relation with CODE. go's back years and has always been a good one. I still remember the day that Aria and Khoda from Zantiu-Braun Corpiration [CLOSED] told me they were going to take over CODE :

Quote:
[23:38:48] Aria Stane > This is the last day for this alliance. I move to CODE. tomorrow to take over as Executor.

One of their main goals, which I have always supported, is don't be afk while playing Eve. Personally I dont mind someone being afk for a couple of minutes or even longer if they are just docked up. But the moment you interact with the game, you should be active. So for example no afk mining or hauling while reading the newspaper.

This has gone well for a long time, but lately it seems CODE. has internal issues, which makes them change course from an idyllic alliance to a mainly isks focussed business. The following is part of an Eve mail (2014.11.06) send by Loyalanon to CODE, which our spy got hold of :

Quote:
This is a mail in regards to the direction I want to take the Alliance.

Currently I have my alt character Sophia Soprano in Bat Country as I have been asked by Warr Akini to start leading CFC Stratop Ganks in High Sec taking out Non-CFC Freighters in High Sec, and other high value targets (Any non-cfc jump freighter , blingy freighters etc) I will be ganking under loyalanon and will not be excluding code members. Sophia is only in their to give me access to ships in various systems to make Warr's and my job easier.

This involves my guys running positive sec status and coordinating with Mini-luv in regards to this. I need to lay out some ground rules for the Alliance that need to happen to make this possible :

1. The Wardeccing corp will need to cease any wardecs if a large merc corp jumps in as an ally to any of our defenders.
2. If our wardecs start posing a threat to the integrity of our freighter fleets, or our smartbombing fleets with our wardec targets/Allies then this will need to stop as soon as possible so that we can do what we need to do first and formost.
Part of the agreement (which is still being worked out with mini-luv) is that we would have access to goonspace to rat sec status's up and/or join in fleets with CFC. This is still being discussed and is not set in stone at the moment. However so we are all on the same page - the alliance would be made aware that any attempt to undermine our relationship with Goons in Null sec will not be tolerated and any member going against it will be removed from the alliance no questions asked, no chances.

In high sec we are free to shoot goon/cfc alts or even goons/cfc directly however the finer points of this will be given once the meeting takes place.

1. So you understand this I do not want us to be blue with cfc and or their alts (in high sec) but at this point the details are still being worked out. As far as I am concerned I do not want to blue half of eve and will make sure this does not happen.

2. I still expect miners and carebears to die in high sec, however me personally will be taking a step back from it for a little while to concentrate on the skiff-bot fleets/incursion runners and high value freighters.

3. These ops are not compulsary for alliance members however this would be beneficial for members to join in on these epic things.

4. Next month or in January (depending on how I go) I am wanting to take over the customs offices in Solitude for Code Alliance so that we have a stable passive income. This will mostly involve my corp going out there for a fortnight and taking all the customs offices down and putting up customs offices for the Alliance/Corp which will alleviate some of the pressure of TCE treasury and Code/NO Treasury so we can have a steady flow of passive isk (even a small amount of passive isk is good isk)

Just so everyone is aware all these points especially the ones in regards to our wardecs need to be followed to the T, There is no room for discussion on this as far as I am concerned, I can not afford to let this wardec corp ruin what I have planned or interfere with this in anyway and for now I am just tolerating that they are in the alliance.


As you can read, Loyalanon doesnt give a **** about CODE and just wants to make his CFC buddies happy. We will not allow this to happen. We've setup a corp in "The Marmite Collective" called "New Order Decoded", which will be used for this campaign. We have had many corps and alliances in the past who wanted us to go after CODE, which we all denied, as they were blue to us. This ends today! Marmites is going to perma dec CODE, until the problem is fixed. We will handle it as any other contract we take.

A few questions our donaters might have are answered below :

How can we support Marmites in doing so ?
Well, you understand this will take a lot of isks to keep running. We didn't want just one client to pay for it all, so we decided to use the new corp ""New Order Decoded" for this purpose. All donations send to this corp will be used for the decoding campaign (war dec fees, SRP, but also subcontracting to our fellow mercenaries where needed). By using a new corp, it is more clear to us, which donations are for the campaign and which is for our other contracts.

Will this make you safe from CODE ?
No this wont make you 100% safe from CODE, but we will kill as many as possible for you. As long as people keep donating, I will keep this campaign running,

---
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#2 - 2014-11-21 11:08:39 UTC
In about 12 hours the corp joins the alliance.

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
Winthorp
#3 - 2014-11-21 11:36:11 UTC
Can i get a TL:DR of this **** story?
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#4 - 2014-11-21 11:42:24 UTC
Winthorp wrote:
Can i get a TL:DR of this **** story?
Sure : WAR and content !

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-11-21 11:43:15 UTC  |  Edited by: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
=( This is kinda sad, especially the blatantly false claim that loyal is all about isk. I have never seen someone in eve care less about isk than he does. The only thing I can accuse him of is being a total killmail whore (well and making people mad, but we all do that).

*snip*

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#6 - 2014-11-21 11:49:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Sabriz Adoudel
Tora Bushido wrote:
Winthorp wrote:
Can i get a TL:DR of this **** story?
Sure : WAR and content !


Looking forward to it, myself.

Chaos is what makes EVE worth playing.

Let's shoot each other for a while, then maybe (or maybe not) return to working together. Chaos is entertainment.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Alana Charen-Teng
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-11-21 11:57:02 UTC
I remember when Aria Stane and Kodha created CODEdot alliance - they were on very good terms with Tora.

I eagerly await the minerbumping blog post on this latest development.
Ro Fenrios
Armilies Corporation
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#8 - 2014-11-21 13:06:35 UTC
Thought this would be another code wins thread by code. Was surprised and now quite curious to find what happens next.
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#9 - 2014-11-21 13:25:42 UTC
So does this mean Veers will be joining Marmite?

Bear

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

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Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-11-21 13:40:29 UTC
Awesome stuff Marmite lol

And as for CODE and their war dec corp, well I think it is quite disrespectful to state "for now I am just tolerating that they are in the alliance" in a mail like that. If I was in that corp I'd demand an apology or leave.
Snake Fist Style
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-11-21 13:47:40 UTC
Mike Adoulin wrote:
So does this mean Veers will be joining Marmite?

Bear


Most people in Marmite couldn't give a **** about Veers, Gevlon or anyone else that influences policy or bankrolls the alliance. The sov mentality that's been pushed lately is a ballache. POCO defense this, MCC that... might as well take a bite out of the blue doughnut. I'm sure that most of us would much prefer to adopt the attitude of POH or Devils, having far fewer blues, fewer wars and actual fleets and pilots that can achieve something, rather that the constant and pervasive cluster **** attitude as it stands now where just about anyone can get in, spies are rife and losses are frequent and unnecessary. Indeed many of the wars we have are a total waste of time and isk, decced at random with little research into viability.

This isn't about creating content in any way, shape or form, though that may be a by-product. It's about feelings, and feelings are bad, mkay?
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#12 - 2014-11-21 13:50:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Tora Bushido
Mike Adoulin wrote:
So does this mean Veers will be joining Marmite?

Bear
Maybe just 1 time, just before I gank him myself Twisted

@Snake Fist Style : If you have an opinion, you might as well use your main char in Marmites (if any). And what's stopping you of leaving ? Just a reminder, Marmites isn't a democracy. Blink

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#13 - 2014-11-21 13:54:38 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Mike Adoulin wrote:
So does this mean Veers will be joining Marmite?

Bear
Maybe just 1 time, just before I gank him myself Twisted

eeeew, i wouldn't want that philistines stink on my kill-board

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
Tyr Sigmundr
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-11-21 13:59:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyr Sigmundr
Renegade Heart wrote:
Awesome stuff Marmite lol

And as for CODE and their war dec corp, well I think it is quite disrespectful to state "for now I am just tolerating that they are in the alliance" in a mail like that. If I was in that corp I'd demand an apology or leave.


I would if he had actually said it. Parts of that clip are corruptions of truth, and most of it is made up. For starters, that's not even close to what a mail from Loyalanon looks like.

Beyond that, looking forward to this.

Sabriz for CSMX! A vote for Tora is a vote for Theme Park High Sec.
Tobias Edwards Padecain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-11-21 14:05:48 UTC
I'm a newer player to EVE. Would someone be able to point me towards some references focused on the histories of corporations and alliances and how they've interacted with each other?

Something like this, I suppose: A History of the Great Empires of Eve Online by Andrew Groen -- Kickstarter


I am currently taking measures to weaken CODE's infrastructure within a single region. If my plan goes well, I should be able to expand to neighboring regions soon enough.
Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#16 - 2014-11-21 14:08:23 UTC
Tyr Sigmundr wrote:
Renegade Heart wrote:
Awesome stuff Marmite lol

And as for CODE and their war dec corp, well I think it is quite disrespectful to state "for now I am just tolerating that they are in the alliance" in a mail like that. If I was in that corp I'd demand an apology or leave.


I would if he had actually said it. Parts of that clip are corruptions of truth, and most of it is made up. For starters, that's not even close to what a mail from Loyalanon looks like.

Beyond that, looking forward to this.


Well I guess it is possible that Tora is lying Big smile or even that some double agent has messed things up somewhere? Who knows, but either way it's a good move for Marmite in my view and will make the game more fun for all.

Might Marmite bring CODE down? Or could CODE fight back and take out Marmite? Maybe a giant of high sec could be toppled soon!
Tyr Sigmundr
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-11-21 14:15:01 UTC
Renegade Heart wrote:
Tyr Sigmundr wrote:
Renegade Heart wrote:
Awesome stuff Marmite lol

And as for CODE and their war dec corp, well I think it is quite disrespectful to state "for now I am just tolerating that they are in the alliance" in a mail like that. If I was in that corp I'd demand an apology or leave.


I would if he had actually said it. Parts of that clip are corruptions of truth, and most of it is made up. For starters, that's not even close to what a mail from Loyalanon looks like.

Beyond that, looking forward to this.


Well I guess it is possible that Tora is lying Big smile or even that some double agent has messed things up somewhere? Who knows, but either way it's a good move for Marmite in my view and will make the game more fun for all.

Might Marmite bring CODE down? Or could CODE fight back and take out Marmite? Maybe a giant of high sec could be toppled soon!


I know we wouldn't be able to topple Marmite, and I doubt Marmite would leave their regular haunts long enough to chase us all across HS. As for freighter fleets, Loyals pretty used to running them with hostiles on grid, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him running gank fleets right under Marmites nose.

We'll have to see though. I know Tora won't resort to Drysons' fabled Scissors Technique so Code will be fine at the end of this.Lol

Sabriz for CSMX! A vote for Tora is a vote for Theme Park High Sec.
Fybs
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2014-11-21 14:15:38 UTC
Snake Fist Style wrote:
Mike Adoulin wrote:
So does this mean Veers will be joining Marmite?

Bear


Most people in Marmite couldn't give a **** about Veers, Gevlon or anyone else that influences policy or bankrolls the alliance. The sov mentality that's been pushed lately is a ballache. POCO defense this, MCC that... might as well take a bite out of the blue doughnut. I'm sure that most of us would much prefer to adopt the attitude of POH or Devils, having far fewer blues, fewer wars and actual fleets and pilots that can achieve something, rather that the constant and pervasive cluster **** attitude as it stands now where just about anyone can get in, spies are rife and losses are frequent and unnecessary. Indeed many of the wars we have are a total waste of time and isk, decced at random with little research into viability.

This isn't about creating content in any way, shape or form, though that may be a by-product. It's about feelings, and feelings are bad, mkay?


If your a marmite post with your main like the rest of us.

No one likes people who hide behind alts.

Don't confuse kindness with weakness.

Beware the hand of Fybs.

Proud CEO of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority
Tyr Sigmundr
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-11-21 14:17:43 UTC
Tobias Edwards Padecain wrote:
I'm a newer player to EVE. Would someone be able to point me towards some references focused on the histories of corporations and alliances and how they've interacted with each other?

Something like this, I suppose: A History of the Great Empires of Eve Online by Andrew Groen -- Kickstarter


I am currently taking measures to weaken CODE's infrastructure within a single region. If my plan goes well, I should be able to expand to neighboring regions soon enough.


I don't actually know of anything of that sort myself but it would certainly make for a very interesting read. When reading about 0.0 politics though, always keep in mind pretty much all of the major alliance leaders know each other and are more or less on good terms. A lot of wars have been fought between guys who laugh about it over beers at Fanfest.

Beyond that, good hunting, and hope to see your main on the field of battle. Of course I won't know it's you since you didn't have the courage to post with him.

Sabriz for CSMX! A vote for Tora is a vote for Theme Park High Sec.
Justin Zaine
#20 - 2014-11-21 14:19:41 UTC
War with Marmite?

You mean business as usual for those of us that don't spend 98% of our time looking for kills on the Amarr/Jita undock.

He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight.

He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared.
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