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High-sec Warning for Criminals
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Zepheros Naeonis
TinklePee
#21 - 2014-11-18 17:17:27 UTC
afkalt wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
If you run around in high sec with safeties red, it's not the game's fault.


These are people who commited a crime in LOW perhaps 10 minutes ago wanting a notification - one a bit clearer than a little red icon no-one looks at - that as soon as they click (or misclick) "jump", they instantly die.

So tl;dr: "I don't pay enough attention and therefore should be coddled."
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#22 - 2014-11-18 17:30:33 UTC
Zepheros Naeonis wrote:
So tl;dr: "I don't pay enough attention and therefore should be coddled."


I think you just summed up the accumulated arguments of every whinebear ever to post on the forum.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#23 - 2014-11-18 18:33:36 UTC
Zepheros Naeonis wrote:
So tl;dr: "I don't pay enough attention and therefore should be coddled."

Carebears in highsec get coddled in this manner constantly. There have been an absolute shitton of changes made to the game to protect them from their own unattentiveness or abject stupidity, in some cases at the expense of the gameplay of others (see the post incursion change to remote reps that completely screwed over everyone that used any kind of RR in pvp).

Unless carebears are for some reason more deserving of having the game changed to help them than other players then lowsec players deserve at least a warning if they try and jump into highsec whole GCC

It would have zero negative affect on any one, may save a few some frustration and should not be hard or costly to implement

The only reason anyone would be against this while tolerating all the other bubble wrap features is pure mean spirited vindictiveness because they personally don't like a given play style. That kind of attitude is selfish and bad for the health of the game.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-11-18 18:38:21 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Zepheros Naeonis wrote:
So tl;dr: "I don't pay enough attention and therefore should be coddled."

Carebears in highsec get coddled in this manner constantly. There have been an absolute shitton of changes made to the game to protect them from their own unattentiveness or abject stupidity, in some cases at the expense of the gameplay of others (see the post incursion change to remote reps that completely screwed over everyone that used any kind of RR in pvp).

Unless carebears are for some reason more deserving of having the game changed to help them than other players then lowsec players deserve at least a warning if they try and jump into highsec whole GCC

It would have zero negative affect on any one, may save a few some frustration and should not be hard or costly to implement

The only reason anyone would be against this while tolerating all the other bubble wrap features is pure mean spirited vindictiveness because they personally don't like a given play style. That kind of attitude is selfish and bad for the health of the game.


CCP please protect me from the same unattentiveness or abject stupidity I criticize others of having.
afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2014-11-18 18:48:06 UTC  |  Edited by: afkalt
Zepheros Naeonis wrote:
afkalt wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
If you run around in high sec with safeties red, it's not the game's fault.


These are people who commited a crime in LOW perhaps 10 minutes ago wanting a notification - one a bit clearer than a little red icon no-one looks at - that as soon as they click (or misclick) "jump", they instantly die.

So tl;dr: "I don't pay enough attention and therefore should be coddled."


It's simply consistency given all the other warnings as well as clearing up it being nothing to do with "running around in high sec with a red safety"

It is not always a case of lack of attention, could be a simple misclick - sure other parts pof space are the same except there is no running the concord camp.

Stupid arbitrary crap doesnt make things "hard" it makes them stupid. That being said, I live in null so.../shrug. Continue your circle jerk about eve being "hard" at your own leisure.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#26 - 2014-11-18 19:02:18 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:


CCP please protect me from the same unattentiveness or abject stupidity I criticize others of having.

like I said I don't ever go GCC so so it won't affect me in the slightest.

I sincerely believe that if anyone is allowed protection from dumb then everyone should.
Ceawlin Cobon-Han
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-11-20 12:50:00 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:


CCP please protect me from the same unattentiveness or abject stupidity I criticize others of having.

like I said I don't ever go GCC so so it won't affect me in the slightest.

I sincerely believe that if anyone is allowed protection from dumb then everyone should.

Your choice to go into losec is advertising your belief that you understand the consequences of your actions. That makes you different from those who play in hisec.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#28 - 2014-11-20 14:44:08 UTC
I don't go to lowsec either. I live in highsec.

I just care about the gameplay of people other than myself.
afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2014-11-20 14:47:29 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
I just care about the gameplay of people other than myself.


You'll find yourself in an unpopular minority there, regrettably.
Thorr VonAsgard
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2014-11-20 14:49:47 UTC
+1

You miss blink ? Come and play with us at EVE-Lotteries.com !

Envie de fraicheur ? Frugu, le forum fruité est fait pour toi !
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#31 - 2014-11-20 14:54:33 UTC
Actually I lied. I went GCC once in 2011.

He had it coming.
Dangeresque Too
Pistols for Pandas
#32 - 2014-11-20 15:41:07 UTC
Lol, this is pretty awesome how the guys that pvp say that nobody pays attention to the timers... if you pvp very much at all, you should live by the timers and by second nature know their status at any given time. If you aren't paying attention then sorry about your luck. I'm sure you have earned more from the system than you lost by making that mistake.

And isn't that the lesson of Eve? You learn lessons by making mistakes, the more expensive the mistake, the better you learn the lesson.

I don't care for the "I'm flying around in low doing piratey things but not paying enough attention to my surroundings" excuses. You know better, or if you didn't, you do now.
Jackson Apollo
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2014-11-20 15:57:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Jackson Apollo
I thought about this for awhile before choosing an opinion.

Jumping from High to Low can be a honest mistake that gets anyone killed.

Being a criminal is a choice. You wanted highsec to try killing you, now its up to you to avoid it.

-1 because EVE already changes your nappie for you, it shouldn't also carry you in its joey pouch. EVE is spreadsheet submarines in space, not a kangaroo. (what?)
afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2014-11-20 16:11:33 UTC
Jackson Apollo wrote:
You wanted highsec to try killing you, now its up to you to avoid it.


I don't think you know how lowsec works.
Ceawlin Cobon-Han
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2014-11-24 19:20:06 UTC
afkalt wrote:
Jackson Apollo wrote:
You wanted highsec to try killing you, now its up to you to avoid it.


I don't think you know how lowsec works.

Then do, please, enlighten us with your bountiful wisdom.
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