Player Features and Ideas Discussion

or at least a new rig that cools down the overheated stuff, a fail safe mechanic of some kind

So you want to add a "safety" after you have clearly turned off the "safeties." An override to stop an override. Limit things when you are clearly trying to go past your limits in the first place.

Part of the idea behind overheat is that you are disabling the "safe" operation of modules for better performance... at the risk that they might burn out and leave you more helpless than if you did not.

its a game mechanic, not a real life scenario.

makes sense yeah, but what about stopping at 99% and why isnt it an option if there is high level tech involved? at least the option to put a rig would be a start

Cooking mods an area in eve that reinforces actual player skill. Why do you want to lose that? Its actually something that isn't press a button....I win.


2 players
same skills
same ship
same fit
same actual flying skills roughly (ie, knows how to work traversal, manual flight control, etc)

One player knows when to say when and stops the overheat
Other player doesn't, blows up mods, and is now at the mercy of the other guy.
Moral of that story, better discipline in overheat won a close fight. As it should be.


Also you do know in real life you too can bypass overheat controls or they do fail. Used to be heavy into hobbyist photography. I have external flashes that do have thermal cutoffs. And if that last few pops is variable enough in heat....that thermal cutoff comes too little too late if that overzealous.

Now some gear addresses this issue. You won't like how they do it. They make the thermal cutoff way more conservative. As in it trips way too low. This would be why I keep an "old faithful" flash over a later model. The newer model shuts off way too soon while my old faithful I know gets a few more bursts off.

^^ Slight mitigating factor IMO in that overheating and syncing up with the server seems to be somewhat unreliable at times*, it would remove a huge player dependant skill aspect from the game however.



* Lost count of the times I've been unable to stop a module overheating for several cycles or stopped it (all) overheating several cycles short of stuff being destroyed but still had the ping and modules destroyed 20-30 seconds later, etc. and I'm on a 80Mbit connection with a 10ms ping to eve so its not like I've a bad connection.

something tells me it would result in an extra heat cycle, a lot like unnecessary missile volleys whose target disappears before they land. imo one extra heat cycle isn't so important compared to the best argument, which is the danger of overuse.

removing the 100% failure condition isn't suddenly OP, though. it is what it is, basically a temporary officer mod.

what would be fair is a lower heat damage, lower bonus mode that does feature a failsafe.

Module burnout is a perfectly fine balancing penalty to the power that overheating gives you, so I don't support a safety that turns off overheat when it reaches a certain threshold. That said, I do think that an expansion of the overheating mechanic in some way could be interesting, and I rather hope that it happens some day.

Yes.

Additionally, I fixed your scrub-tier title for you.

The lack of an alternative is because we don't see any need for a change in the first place. Why propose an alternative change when you don't want a change at all?