Player Features and Ideas Discussion

yes to this. Give some useable reason to the 'forbidden' items in game that carry penalties if you accidentally carry them. Right now, they're just clutter.

While I was in the CSM I often suggested smuggling should be a way to make low sec more interesting. CCP never seemed interested.

Eighteen words: Customs has a random chance of scanning any ship's cargo that uses hisec gates. No exceptions, one loophole.

Orcas once had the god-sent unscannable corp hangar but I believe that is no longer the case. Even if you could, an orca is a super lame smuggleboat.

The smuggling system needs work. I hate that a) the list of useful smuggle-ables is so small, and b) that the system is so... Non skill based. Interceptions based solely on a percentage chance of making it through a customs gate. In an un-game-able arbitrary system like that, people are very risk averse. For example, Jita is the only real market for combat boosters. Nobody I know of is a regular seller and shipper of boosters in hisec because it's unfun and it sucks.

*hobbles in and pulls up a chair*

Gather round kids and let uncle reaper tell you one of his favorite eve stories...

Around, I think it was 08 maybe 09, before apocarypto, there was a player gathering in Vegas. This would be the first of the eve vegas reborn (the very first one was done in 05 and that was put on by blackhole bob, but that's a totally different story) Anyway, CCP was talking about how they were switching over to SCRUM from there project development. And so they thought it would be a great idea to split us into teams and have us make our own expansion, so we could get an idea for how CCP does it.

My team happened to have mittens on it, and a few other null gurus. We had to pick an area we wished to improve, make a 'jesus feature' or main theme of the expansion, then add on smaller parts to supplement the theme. The toher two groups went for the low hanging fruit of null sec, and came up with some.. mmm... interesting ideas. Mittens and others also said null, but I kinda piped up and said the other two teams were doing that already. So we thought about it, and someone said 'why not low sec?' and off we went.

We made EVE ONLINE: Corruption Which won out of the three, and well come on, we had mittens on the team who is a great speaker btw, and could prolly sell ice to an eskimo. Anyway, out feature was "system corruption level" but i'm not gonna address that, one of the ideas to help this was adding a low sec only or black market, which things like contraband and drugs could be openingly traded with no hassles. We also had the idea for a new ship (note, ccp was thinking of adding fuel holds to caps at this time) basically a smuggler ship that had a special smugglers hold, that could not be scanned by cargo scanners, the ship was fast and agile, but could not haul very much. The idea was you could but stuff in low sec on the black market, and run it to HS and try and sell it there.

CCP really liked the idea, and said something like 'wow we should make this an expansion' but alas never did.

So I agree, smuggling, like bounty hunting, REALLY needs another look

Confiscation immunity is not a good idea. You're totally flipping the field and making it impossible to get caught smuggling. The word contraband becomes meaningless to those who move and sell it, what's fun about that?

Let me preface the following with a statement that I don't know what currently happens to people that 'resist interdiction'. I never got caught. Not a subject matter expert, just trying to contribute.

I would suggest that, if a Customs Officer ever catches you, you should be able to blow him up and run. This means GTFOing before the Navy response, instant aggression from any other customs officers you encounter for the rest of your delivery run, and you are also suspect flagged. But if you have a strong ship or buddy assistance, you have a chance of surviving the gauntlet to your destination. But you'll take sec/standings hits for all the ships you kill. If you don't want the sec hit, just give up the goods. This would be waaaay more fun than fitting an immunity mod and saying GG.

Comments?

T2 body cavity expanders?

but still, where is the 'reason' to be doing this? Way smuggle? There no reason or reward, save a small financial gain, which can be mirrored similarly and exceeded easily elsewhere. For me, that's the bit that's missing. No driver.

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In case you also look at reddit, there is an actual topic mentioning tha the whole drug stuff should be looked at: http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2mt425/can_we_have_more_drugs/

I can confirm that booster manufacturing, transporting illegal items in Hisec etc. need some changes to make it a viable option as profession. Whenever I search for details how to produce drugs I always find the comment: Don't do it, if you are not in a big cartel it's not worth it because of the high complexity and the missing market.

Maybe some "more legal" drugs which could be used in Hisec, additioanl sources for gas types (currently spread over whole eden with Hisec in the middle blocking any transports), easier drug manufacturing (mobile drug lab) could help.

Han Solo has a little Obi-wan in him...if ya know what I mean. ;)