Player Features and Ideas Discussion

New sleepers sites in k-space bring some new opportunities to exploration.

So, to the point:
1) hackable structures (warpagates, siloses, stockyards, habitats etc.)
2) more than one "pocket"
3) structures that changes condition on grid and beyond:
- defensive structure that can be switch off (maybe for some time) like turrets, shields, drone bunkers etc.
- hackable beacon that can remove sig from ship scanners
- hackable entry warpgate to "lock" pocket for some time
- structure with possibilty to suck gas cloud on site to reveal hidden content (like cans or wrecks, hackable ofc)
4) dangers:
- gas clouds
- bobby traped structure that will blow within proximity
- alarms (on datas) with rats incoming

So we land on pocket. There are 10 structures with possible loot. After scanning 3 of them have something inside. One is guarded by turrets, the other 2 can be hacked directly but they are in some dangerous gas clouds. There are site beacon near that destroyed base but in may be traped. Also there's a warpgate to another pocket. Decisions decisions.

Why exactly? Ships with a probe launcher to "see" them would find them anyway and ships without out one already can't find them.

As a hobbyist explorer I am honestly not sure what is wrong with the current discovery scanner mechanics.

Chewed the idea of signatures not showing on system scanner and...
- looking for signatures sonar style: one probe with smaller range to find signature, current probes to pinpoint location (this idea has a flaw - big system like 50 AU would be tedious to scan)
- remove sigantures from scanner and move information about them on F10 map level (intel style, like jumps/h etc. this i like better because you don't go blindly and scan system after system)
but...
data and relics are not only signatures that system scanner is showing. This would affect combat exploration (more like bonuty hunting) as well.
I would rather put wormholes to anomalies (w-dwellers could use some targets to shoot, conflict driver), and ghost sites to signatures.
Then scale probing difficulty:
- easiest - combat signatures
- data/relics
- most difficulty - ghost sites (with options to actually fight with rats on grid)

Layers of exploration:
I - cluster map and choosing route/systems to scan, gathering intel (every explorer first step to take)
II - probing system to find sites
III - exploring site (in our case cargo scanning)

no

His answer is terrible but he's not wrong. Anything that prevents another player from affecting you is bad and should not exist.

I'm sure we'd all love to lock out those rare high-sec 5/10's so no one could steal the loot at the end - but thats not what eve is about.

As for removing the sensor sweep, you won't change anything. Experienced players will drop a DSP and see it all anyway, all you do is add pointless clicks.

I like your ideas of adding more content to exploration.

As long as CCP removes Cosmic Signatures from showing in the Sensor Sweep I'm fine with your proposal.

And no I don't want DSP's put back into the game. As I said before, Exploration is the act of searching to find something that's unknown.


DMC

The DSP were bad because the required astrometrics 5 as well as an expanded probe launcher which limited there use.

One of the reasons for the discovery scanner was to show what cosmic anomalies were in the system, which is a good thing, but showing all the cosmic signatures that are in the system also has made exploration far to simple of a endeavor and the market for the good reflects this.

Which is why I still say to remove cosmic signatures form the discovery scanner readout and leave finding those to probes. It will make players explore systems again.