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Bronson Hughes

The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration

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#1 - 2014-11-17 19:32:06 UTC

I predict that the Bowhead's first use will not be to transport expensive ships, but to assist in destroying them.

How many fit and rigged Taloses could you fit in one? Or Catalysts?

There is a major hisec choke point between Amarr and Jita without a station, and that system is Niarja. This lack of a station makes large-scale gank ops there more complicated, albeit definitely still possible. Any enterprising suicide ganking group can simply park one loaded up with gank ships at a safe spot and use it as a mobile base of operations. No POS to protect or fuel, the pilot can be in an NPC corp to avoid wardecs, and, unlike a POS, a Bowhead can bounce around between various safes to avoid being tracked down.

How long until the first Bowhead-backed fleet ganks a freighter in Niarja?

(To be absolutely clear, I am not complaining about this at all. I can't wait to hear the first stories.) Twisted

Relatively Notorious By Association

My Many Misadventures

I predicted FAUXs

Black Hydra Consortium. 16,296
Kaarous Aldurald Black Hydra Consortium. Likes received: 16,296	#2 - 2014-11-17 19:50:04 UTC 4 Bronson Hughes wrote: How long until the first Bowhead-backed fleet ganks a freighter in Niarja? About ninety minutes longer than it will take to make one after it's released. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs. Best Meltdown Ever.

The Conference Elite The Conference 965
CODE Agent AC The Conference Elite The Conference Likes received: 965	#3 - 2014-11-17 20:25:34 UTC 9 Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Bronson Hughes wrote: How long until the first Bowhead-backed fleet ganks a freighter in Niarja? About ninety minutes longer than it will take to make one after it's released. We still are calling this feat a Tug-job right? The Artist Formerly Known As AC. The terminal end of the digestive system. The Best CSM Candidate

Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 370
Jur Tissant Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation Likes received: 370	#4 - 2014-11-17 20:26:08 UTC 2 How long until the first Bowhead-backed fleet ganks a Bowhead backing a gank fleet? And will this be the end of EVE?

Imperial Margarine 2,206
Karl Hobb Imperial Margarine Likes received: 2,206	#5 - 2014-11-17 20:37:25 UTC 1 Bronson Hughes wrote: How many fit and rigged Taloses could you fit in one? Or Catalysts? 5 Talos or 25~30 Catalysts (napkin maths~). I imagine you'd want two Bowheads around, one in-system and the other "refueling" the gank fleet. A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.


Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration Likes received: 3,224	#6 - 2014-11-17 20:40:25 UTC CODE Agent AC wrote: We still are calling this feat a Tug-job right? Oh THAT is hysterical.... Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures I predicted FAUXs

Swordmasters of New Eden 601
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden Likes received: 601	#7 - 2014-11-17 22:24:17 UTC I'm expected quite a few ganks in the first couple of days. And I'll be here saying I TOLD YOU SO.

Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 319
Eldwinn Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State Likes received: 319	#8 - 2014-11-17 23:10:33 UTC In our case we can use this for deployment for long distances. For example 90% reduction in the jump pretty much allows for titan networks again.

Paranoid Loyd

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#9 - 2014-11-17 23:25:33 UTC

Veers Belvar wrote:

I'm expected quite a few ganks in the first couple of days. And I'll be here saying I TOLD YOU SO.

We all expect them to be ganked and some of us will be participating, so who will you be telling "I TOLD YOU SO" to?

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Move along there is nothing here 6,056
Sabriz Adoudel Move along there is nothing here Likes received: 6,056	#10 - 2014-11-17 23:33:09 UTC 5 http://megalawlz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/shipping-ship-funny-pictures1.jpg comes to mind every time the Bowhead is mentioned I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Veers Belvar

Swordmasters of New Eden

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#11 - 2014-11-17 23:38:16 UTC

Paranoid Loyd wrote:

Veers Belvar wrote:

I'm expected quite a few ganks in the first couple of days. And I'll be here saying I TOLD YOU SO.

We all expect them to be ganked and some of us will be participating, so who will you be telling "I TOLD YOU SO" to?

All the people in the F&I thread who said that given the new EHP of the ship it will be virtually ungankable. Roll

Ned Thomas

Sebiestor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

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#12 - 2014-11-17 23:48:13 UTC

Veers Belvar wrote:

Paranoid Loyd wrote:

Veers Belvar wrote:

I'm expected quite a few ganks in the first couple of days. And I'll be here saying I TOLD YOU SO.

We all expect them to be ganked and some of us will be participating, so who will you be telling "I TOLD YOU SO" to?

All the people in the F&I thread who said that given the new EHP of the ship it will be virtually ungankable. Roll

When they find out that it will still be quite gankable (and a gigantic sexy target to boot) they'll be too busy begging for more hit points to hear you say "I told you so".

Paranoid Loyd

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#13 - 2014-11-17 23:51:40 UTC | Edited by: Paranoid Loyd

Veers Belvar wrote:

Paranoid Loyd wrote:

Veers Belvar wrote:

I'm expected quite a few ganks in the first couple of days. And I'll be here saying I TOLD YOU SO.

We all expect them to be ganked and some of us will be participating, so who will you be telling "I TOLD YOU SO" to?

All the people in the F&I thread who said that given the new EHP of the ship it will be virtually ungankable. Roll

If history has shown us anything, it has shown that it is not logic that dictates changes but who screams the loudest. They are just trying to keep it as balanced as possible by screaming from the other side.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Machiavellian Space Bastards 28,489
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards Likes received: 28,489	#14 - 2014-11-18 01:43:36 UTC \| Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein 1 Tug-Job In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack


CODE Agent AC The Conference Elite The Conference Likes received: 965	#15 - 2014-11-18 08:34:48 UTC 1 Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Tug-Job Hey hey! Credit when due! I need my royalties for PLEX! The Artist Formerly Known As AC. The terminal end of the digestive system. The Best CSM Candidate

Taishi Combine Astral Alliance 3,498
Dracvlad Taishi Combine Astral Alliance Likes received: 3,498	#16 - 2014-11-18 08:40:39 UTC Maybe CCP should look at docking rights at this point? When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour. Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Zebra Corp Goonswarm Federation 143
Marcus Tedric Zebra Corp Goonswarm Federation Likes received: 143	#17 - 2014-11-18 10:36:56 UTC Earliest could possibly be 9 days after the patch..... Don't soil your panties, you guys made a good point, we'll look at the numbers again. - CCP Ytterbium


Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards Likes received: 28,489	#18 - 2014-11-18 14:26:32 UTC \| Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein Dracvlad wrote: Maybe CCP should look at docking rights at this point? Why would Empire NPC's care about security status and how it affects docking rights? All they care about is that we're mainly shooting at each other, instead of at them. In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack

BlueWaffe 1,347
Lady Ayeipsia BlueWaffe Likes received: 1,347	#19 - 2014-11-18 14:34:41 UTC Dracvlad wrote: Maybe CCP should look at docking rights at this point? Would it not be better to just ask that a weapon timer prevent some one from boarding a ship? Personally, I would hate that and never support it. Still, docking rights would do nothing to change any of this.

Carebears on Fire 565
Jean Luc Lemmont Carebears on Fire Likes received: 565	#20 - 2014-11-19 20:59:34 UTC Jur Tissant wrote: How long until the first Bowhead-backed fleet ganks a Bowhead backing a gank fleet? And will this be the end of EVE? That will be glorious. Will I get banned for boxing!?!?! This thread has degenerated to the point it's become like two bald men fighting over a comb. -- Doc Fury It's bonuses, not boni, you cretins.

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