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Sleipnir uses?
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Alexa Coates
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2014-11-16 06:09:02 UTC
can confirm sleip is god-tier in terms of useability.

That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
Dark Calmness
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2014-11-16 13:50:03 UTC
Lulz. Arguing with a Snuff Box about CSs Lol
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2014-11-16 23:27:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Kagura Nikon
Lloyd Roses wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:
All command ships, except the EOS are not worth for PVP in 90% of the time.

The Sleipnir is weaker now than before the rebalance (lost dps), but still is strong enough to fight anything smaller than it is. But these smaller stuff can easily avoid a sleipnir most of the time. So it is a good ship to use to GANK something you tackled with a bait alt.


What a scrub you are. Lost dps on the sleipnir, haha. Honestly, if you know what you're doing, the Sleipnir, the Claymore and the Eos are absurdly strong solo-choices, the Nighthawk (HAM+capstable dual med neuts), Astarte and Abso are amazing once you got a 10+ man fleet ready and the vulture is like a T2 railgu with a MJD, and railgus are amazing already.

So, if you really need an alt to hard tackle something for your sleipnir to hit, then you should start NOW training motion prediction beyond level II. Or read up on how tracking works. I've shot orbiting frigates at 500m down by just keeping align and capping out their webs, sure you can do the same.

To give you numbers: Pre-Buff Sleipnir (all V mainly) 550dps with faction since you could either fit a 900mil pimpboat with 3 RF Gyros or a 2 Gyro fit for 380mil which results in said dps, Post-Buff Sleipnir wth 3 gyros even the cheap way has 650dps with faction and way higher resists. Bottom line: You can now have a significantly superior sleipnir for the same money, or you can have a slightly improved old pimpsleip, just that it now only costs you 300mil instead of 900mil.



And areyou simply unable to READ? THey are strong.. but there are BETTER options, specially when you take warp speed into account. T3 can do whatever a CS can, except what the Eos can do.

So the scrub here is you, that is unable to read. There is a freaking reason why you do not see even HALF the nubmer of CS that used to fly even in 2007!! BEcause t3 took their roles!

If they were absurdly good solo choices they would be common. But they are NOT. And that is a FACT> ANd no it is nOT because of training, because even players that had them trained to level 5 about 6 years ago do not use them much as well.
THey can do their work, but most of the situatiosn T3 are better.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#24 - 2014-11-17 00:59:55 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
im going to leave this here.


Yeah, that was pretty awesome. Wish I had injected command ships...
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#25 - 2014-11-17 01:02:36 UTC
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Lloyd Roses wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:
All command ships, except the EOS are not worth for PVP in 90% of the time.

The Sleipnir is weaker now than before the rebalance (lost dps), but still is strong enough to fight anything smaller than it is. But these smaller stuff can easily avoid a sleipnir most of the time. So it is a good ship to use to GANK something you tackled with a bait alt.


What a scrub you are. Lost dps on the sleipnir, haha. Honestly, if you know what you're doing, the Sleipnir, the Claymore and the Eos are absurdly strong solo-choices, the Nighthawk (HAM+capstable dual med neuts), Astarte and Abso are amazing once you got a 10+ man fleet ready and the vulture is like a T2 railgu with a MJD, and railgus are amazing already.

So, if you really need an alt to hard tackle something for your sleipnir to hit, then you should start NOW training motion prediction beyond level II. Or read up on how tracking works. I've shot orbiting frigates at 500m down by just keeping align and capping out their webs, sure you can do the same.

To give you numbers: Pre-Buff Sleipnir (all V mainly) 550dps with faction since you could either fit a 900mil pimpboat with 3 RF Gyros or a 2 Gyro fit for 380mil which results in said dps, Post-Buff Sleipnir wth 3 gyros even the cheap way has 650dps with faction and way higher resists. Bottom line: You can now have a significantly superior sleipnir for the same money, or you can have a slightly improved old pimpsleip, just that it now only costs you 300mil instead of 900mil.



And areyou simply unable to READ? THey are strong.. but there are BETTER options, specially when you take warp speed into account. T3 can do whatever a CS can, except what the Eos can do.

So the scrub here is you, that is unable to read. There is a freaking reason why you do not see even HALF the nubmer of CS that used to fly even in 2007!! BEcause t3 took their roles!

If they were absurdly good solo choices they would be common. But they are NOT. And that is a FACT> ANd no it is nOT because of training, because even players that had them trained to level 5 about 6 years ago do not use them much as well.
THey can do their work, but most of the situatiosn T3 are better.


So what're you saying is that there is a T3 that can have a 2k dps capless tank and 700dps with 5 light drones and 2 neuts? I'd love to see this fit.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#26 - 2014-11-17 15:51:44 UTC
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Lloyd Roses wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:
All command ships, except the EOS are not worth for PVP in 90% of the time.

The Sleipnir is weaker now than before the rebalance (lost dps), but still is strong enough to fight anything smaller than it is. But these smaller stuff can easily avoid a sleipnir most of the time. So it is a good ship to use to GANK something you tackled with a bait alt.


What a scrub you are. Lost dps on the sleipnir, haha. Honestly, if you know what you're doing, the Sleipnir, the Claymore and the Eos are absurdly strong solo-choices, the Nighthawk (HAM+capstable dual med neuts), Astarte and Abso are amazing once you got a 10+ man fleet ready and the vulture is like a T2 railgu with a MJD, and railgus are amazing already.

So, if you really need an alt to hard tackle something for your sleipnir to hit, then you should start NOW training motion prediction beyond level II. Or read up on how tracking works. I've shot orbiting frigates at 500m down by just keeping align and capping out their webs, sure you can do the same.

To give you numbers: Pre-Buff Sleipnir (all V mainly) 550dps with faction since you could either fit a 900mil pimpboat with 3 RF Gyros or a 2 Gyro fit for 380mil which results in said dps, Post-Buff Sleipnir wth 3 gyros even the cheap way has 650dps with faction and way higher resists. Bottom line: You can now have a significantly superior sleipnir for the same money, or you can have a slightly improved old pimpsleip, just that it now only costs you 300mil instead of 900mil.



And areyou simply unable to READ? THey are strong.. but there are BETTER options, specially when you take warp speed into account. T3 can do whatever a CS can, except what the Eos can do.

So the scrub here is you, that is unable to read. There is a freaking reason why you do not see even HALF the nubmer of CS that used to fly even in 2007!! BEcause t3 took their roles!

If they were absurdly good solo choices they would be common. But they are NOT. And that is a FACT> ANd no it is nOT because of training, because even players that had them trained to level 5 about 6 years ago do not use them much as well.
THey can do their work, but most of the situatiosn T3 are better.


You say CS are useless for PVP with the exception of the Eos. I deny your statement. So don't bugger out and change your route to *but man I meant mobility!*.

You discriminated against the Sleipnir I love and you got a matching answer to that: *You scrub*, which is correct on many levels. Here the repeat:

Kagura Nikon wrote:
All command ships, except the EOS are not worth for PVP in 90% of the time.


Weak statement #1, Lowsec, w-space and PL says *get out*

Kagura Nikon wrote:
So it is a good ship to use to GANK something you tackled with a bait alt.


Weak statement #2, Strong Sleipnirpilot doesn't need no aimbot, strong Sleipnirpilot uses manual control off vessel-trajectory. Also, strong Sleipnirpilot is the bait. And the trap. In one ship, that's the trick.
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#27 - 2014-11-17 16:02:27 UTC
LIoyd, don't waste your time. You are arguing with someone from an alliance that is known for using neutral logi alts and hugging undock.

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