These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Missions & Complexes

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
12Next page
 

Sleeper limited cache.

Author
Vesan Terakol
Trollgrin Sadface
Dark Taboo
#1 - 2014-11-11 15:03:50 UTC
So the new data site got introduced today an here's my impression from it.

First, lets start with the story - i'm out in low sec, about to run on some business of my own. I see a navy comet on a gate, just sitting there and a cheetah on DScan. The comet warps away to somewhere and while i'm searching for it, the cheetah goes off scan, but the pilot is still in system. Out of curiosity, i swap to loot filter and there it is - a cheetah wreck! After some effort scanning the site down, calling corp mates and logging in alts, we finally managed to nail it down.

And there we go, moving inside and looking at all those new boxes and the cheetah wreck - apparently running head first into one of the damage clouds.

Well, a with all unknown there was some "i'll just stay away from this, i'm a PvP-er, i don't wanna die like that! " I finally dared to go in and start poking at the boxes.

Pressure release - i like this one - if you fail it, it zaps you! Altho i feel the zap should be a bit more solid - those 200 damage got like 1/4 of the shields of my Astero - nothing that will drive you back, really. The count down for wearing off of the effect is nice, also (i didn't spot it at first, a corp mate pointed it out).

Remote defense unit - ok, this was the control for the bubble shield. But then:

[14:12:43] Message > Failing to hack the Remote Defense Unit seems to have set something in motion, but you can't tell what.

I never saw anything happen after that - on the next try i successfully hacked it and the shield went down... and that's it.

Rest of the boxes - So, those won't explode if you fail them - you can be there, trying to access them all day until you finally make it. I failed times on one of them (in the stupidest possible ways, mind you).

The loot:

Meta items? Are you kidding me? Oh well, i guess you need to have some trash inside, lest the good stuff won't stand out.

Sleeper data banks - well, at least they sell for decent price...

COSMOS materials... Um... OK, those are worth something.

Storyline blueprint - a tracking computer in my case, 3 runs. I hope the addition of them in those sites as well as adding the parts for them will make them a more desirable commodity and not something that will be a "idiot" flag on the killmail when your ship eventually blows up.

Polarized weapons blueprint - small laser - Um, one run? Come on... why would i even bother with it? Yeah, i know they are supposed to be rare and expensive, but 1 run?

Overall, the site itself is good - it requires some basic thought to not run in the damage cloud, but doesn't make you really weave between them. You can just always fly all the way around. Significantly better than your average data site, tho. Hack this ot acess that - Yes! I like that! More!

And adding to that the way i encountered this site, i want to say that CCP has provided us with some good quality content!
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-11-11 15:45:20 UTC
Nice, what was the total estimates value you got from the site? Also what was the scan difficulty / your scanner stats?

I'm my own NPC alt.

Toddfish
Multiplex Gaming
Tactical Narcotics Team
#3 - 2014-11-11 20:46:09 UTC
There's already a fair amount of info in the test feedback post:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5188494

Good to hear the larger sites will be coming in a few weeks (not months/years), as only having frig level sites would become quite annoying.
Rhys Llywellyn
Llywellyn's School for Wayward Girls
#4 - 2014-11-15 02:31:11 UTC
Found one in Cloud Ring today. I received very little in the way of loot. From memory, all I received was about 100k in meta items and some RAM stuff.

Tip one: the plasma cloud will kill your hobgoblinses if you attack it.

I wish I had taken some notes. I think, in retrospect, the thing to do is to hit the stabilization thingie, then the remote defense unit. That's how I'll play it next time.

On damage: with no defenses fitted, I was able to MWD away from the cloud damage barely into armor (and I didn't react immediately as I was finishing a hack.
Nemah Xadi
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2014-11-15 06:10:02 UTC
My anathema has survived two of these so far.

They are a bit harder to scan than the toughest sites in null, 10/10 or crystal quarries. With about 100 scan strength it should not be a problem, you can do with less if you know how to move the probes closer to eachother.

First one didn't drop much, one cheap storyline bpc and maybe 15m of assorted stuff. Second one I got about 30m and one of the polarized bpcs (single run).

One of the cans exploded into a new damage cloud when I got too close to it. I had a damage control and two EANM, survived moving through with some armor damage.

Can't say what happens if you fail the hacks, didn't feel like trying.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-11-15 13:57:31 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
Nice, what was the total estimates value you got from the site? Also what was the scan difficulty / your scanner stats?


I use T2 probe launcher with sister probes, with 5 astrometrics and 4 in the remaining scanning skills. The sites was noticeable header harder to scan then other low-sec sites, but still not difficult to get the 100%.

The site had 6 can's 3 of which had meta level guns, 2 had skill books and sleeper blue loot, the last had some RAM tools, total value was around 25M. I'm guessing the meta level guns will be replaced by polarized weapon modules when they are released, if that is the case i think you expect to get 100-200M maybe even more from the sites.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.

Beness
Vojtech Fekete
#7 - 2014-11-16 17:41:55 UTC
T2 probe launcher, T1 probes, Astero, with Acquisition, Pinpointing, and Rangefinding all to IV can scan these sites down in the standard Pinpoint formation.

Failing the Remote Defense Unit has that unit explode. It put my Astero from full shield to a sliver of armor left. I fit T2 DC and EANM as tank.

I did have a bit of trouble maintaining tank against the AoE while hacking the containers once the Pressure Release timer finished. I didn't time it particularly well - my progress was Pressure Release -> Remote Defense Failure -> Warp Out -> Warp Back -> Containers. Could sequence it better to minimize the time that I had to deal with the AoE, and focused on the further containers while it was suspended.

Loot? Yeah, blue Sleeper stuff, 1-run BPC for Polarized Pulse Laser, a few other bits and bobs. Excluding the BPC, probably 15M.

These seem like they'll be more consistent income than combat sites - more containers to average out the drops. Whether that works out to be a higher average over time, well, we'll see.
Seizwell
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-11-17 14:01:44 UTC
I ran into two over the weekend as well. I hadn't read anything about them so I took some damage from the gas the first time, but still survived. I got a "crossbow" medium laser BPC from one and Polarized Torpedo Launcher BPC from the other. Rest of the loot was pretty standard.
Sam Spock
The Arnold Connection
#9 - 2014-11-17 21:19:36 UTC
Beness wrote:
T2 probe launcher, T1 probes, Astero, with Acquisition, Pinpointing, and Rangefinding all to IV can scan these sites down in the standard Pinpoint formation.

Failing the Remote Defense Unit has that unit explode. It put my Astero from full shield to a sliver of armor left. I fit T2 DC and EANM as tank.

I did have a bit of trouble maintaining tank against the AoE while hacking the containers once the Pressure Release timer finished. I didn't time it particularly well - my progress was Pressure Release -> Remote Defense Failure -> Warp Out -> Warp Back -> Containers. Could sequence it better to minimize the time that I had to deal with the AoE, and focused on the further containers while it was suspended.

Loot? Yeah, blue Sleeper stuff, 1-run BPC for Polarized Pulse Laser, a few other bits and bobs. Excluding the BPC, probably 15M.

These seem like they'll be more consistent income than combat sites - more containers to average out the drops. Whether that works out to be a higher average over time, well, we'll see.


Good to know that failing could kill your ship. I have failed it once and it gives a warning that something may be happening but I have not failed it twice.

Giving you Inconsistent grammar, speilling and Punct-uation since 1974!

Nemah Xadi
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2014-11-18 06:59:04 UTC
They don't really seem to be much better income than regular relics so far at least in null. Best drop I got from one so far was the 100m wreck of a previous explorer who exploded in the site.

i've only seen single-run bpcs, but i know there are even 10-run bpcs out there. Do those only drop in wormholes?
Sam Spock
The Arnold Connection
#11 - 2014-11-18 15:57:40 UTC
Nemah Xadi wrote:
They don't really seem to be much better income than regular relics so far at least in null. Best drop I got from one so far was the 100m wreck of a previous explorer who exploded in the site.

i've only seen single-run bpcs, but i know there are even 10-run bpcs out there. Do those only drop in wormholes?


Last one I did I got a 3-run Polarized 800mm Repeating Cannon and a very nice 3-run storyline bpc of another large projectile weapon (sorry, don't recall the exact name.) This was in High Sec as well. I was quite surprised. I also picked up some of those tools that are used in building Cosmos items and did not notice until later that the pair together valued at 150m!

I am kicking myself for only going after the cans that had the blueprints in them. Some of the other stuff may have had real value. I am used to the tools in the regular data sites being junk.

tip: if you have never seen it before, check to see what it is and what it is worth before you dismiss it as junk.

Giving you Inconsistent grammar, speilling and Punct-uation since 1974!

Nemah Xadi
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2014-11-19 11:11:05 UTC
Sam Spock wrote:
tip: if you have never seen it before, check to see what it is and what it is worth before you dismiss it as junk.


I've done about 6 sleeper sites in null, most of the cans have been junk (besides 2 polarized bpcs), and I hack everything. How do you manage to charm the loot fairy like that?
Sam Spock
The Arnold Connection
#13 - 2014-11-19 18:23:43 UTC
Nemah Xadi wrote:
Sam Spock wrote:
tip: if you have never seen it before, check to see what it is and what it is worth before you dismiss it as junk.


I've done about 6 sleeper sites in null, most of the cans have been junk (besides 2 polarized bpcs), and I hack everything. How do you manage to charm the loot fairy like that?


Wish I knew! Have not found a single site since then though. Loot fairy gave me a nice Guristas Scout Outpost last night though Lol

Giving you Inconsistent grammar, speilling and Punct-uation since 1974!

Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
#14 - 2014-11-20 06:52:07 UTC
This suppose to be hard to scan?
Astrometric - V
Astrometrics acquisition - IV
Astrometrics pinpointing - IV
Astrometrics rangefinding - IV
Sisters core probe lanucher with sisters probes
...
on gila hull and i manage to pinpoint this site to 75%? As for hardest site, way to easy imo. I wasn't even using explo dedicated hull.

"I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas..." - Herman Melville

Vesan Terakol
Trollgrin Sadface
Dark Taboo
#15 - 2014-11-20 18:21:10 UTC
What i used was:

Astero with T2 probe launcher and Sister probes.

Astrometrics 5, all the rest at 3.
Zetsubou Gakusei
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2014-11-21 17:08:29 UTC
I lost my cheetah to one such site in hi-sec, I finished hacking the can in the cloud and was already moving out of the way but the cloud reactivated and I couldn't MWD out fast enough (foolish me for not activating it as soon as I was done)

So from the previous posts I see that the Astero can safely enough do the sites? Got any fittings with tank and scanning equipment you guys can share?
Barton Breau
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-11-21 18:51:37 UTC
Aim for ~100 dps omni tank (for now, maybe someone who has completed a lot of them can tell us which types the clouds do and which they dont), dcu in case of explosions and 96+ probe strength (can be scanned down manually with less, but pinpoint is more convenient).
Rhys Llywellyn
Llywellyn's School for Wayward Girls
#18 - 2014-11-22 00:18:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Rhys Llywellyn
I've run a few of these now. What works for me is to hit the remote pressure unit first, which allows you to get close to the can right by the 'pressure chamber' (is that right? the big thing in the middle). Hack the middle can then gtf away. The other cans seem to always be approachable from the outside without taking any dmg.

Using this method I have not found tank to be necessary, but then I haven't failed a hack yet. The only damage I'm getting is if i get to close to the middle while i travel from can to can. A quick MWD burst away has always left me with at least some shield left (flying an Astero).

Hopefully I can run one of these without someone else in system soon, so I can take notes.

Edit: I don't understand the significance of the defense grid - it doesn't seem to affect damage from the cloud if you try to cut across from one can to another. Anyone?
Burl en Daire
M.O.M.S. Corp
#19 - 2014-11-24 04:31:32 UTC
I found a sleeper site in low but I couldn't hack the can. T2 data and relic mods in a fully skilled Helios with mid virtues and relic and data rigs. Failed hard, I don't know of a better ship to use and moving to T2 rigs wouldn't allow me to put a data and relic rig on the ship. Any suggestions on how I could do better.

Yesterday's weirdness is tomorrow's reason why. Hunter S. Thompson

Zetsubou Gakusei
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2014-11-24 06:52:16 UTC
I ran one of these but I don't remember well, what kind of analyzer is required?
only one or both?
12Next page