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"Here are your black Caldari ships?"
- "Black. Fantastic!"
"Matte black it is."
- "Awesome. Wait, this isn't black?"
"It's a shade of black."
- "Sure, ok fine. Wait - now it's dark grey?"
"Yes, but there are still some black highlights."
- "No, it's now completely grey with some light grey."
"Pretty sure there's still some black in there. How about now?"
- "Now it's really grey. Light grey to be exact."

is it because the lighting still needs to be re-done on them that capital wrecks are inadvisable or is this a bug?

I like matte effect on caldari ships, and glossy on gallente, it adds to every race something unique (and to game itself). Pls dont change that, just fix some skins here and there

Caldari seems broken, they look flat and dull and no blue windows anymore :)

So I'll go ahead and say this because nobody seems to be commenting on gallente ships. As for the basic color scheme, it fits the newer models much better than the old ones. On the newer megathron, for instance, it looks like the ship has been painted entirely in two colors, with no range of shades on the steal parts of the ship. The blueish parts now appear more green, though I get the feeling this is the direction CCP wants to take the overall gallente look. Overall, the ship feels to shiny, and doesn't have enough range or detail in it's colors to accurately portray the size of the ship. Older models, like the thorax, look plain out bad. The thorax is ridiculously shiny, and seems to have been stripped of a great deal of detail, like most of the other ships in question. I would ultimately suggest that all ships be visually brought in line with how the incursus currently looks, albeit with more range to the steal sections of the ship and a drop in overall reflectivity. (and all chrome sections redone entirely. It looks like tin foil) Virtually all of the tech 2 gallente ships look ridiculous, the kronos beign the prime example. I'm not going to explain this, you should be able to figure out what's wrong on your own.

As for non gallente ships, some of the caldari ships look incredible, save for a few that also have had a great deal of detail stripped from their texture, and the select few CCP has felt the urge to coat in mud. These are mainly kaalakiota shipsm and some navy ships (so generally more advanced, high end ships_. My first issue with this is where the hell does mud come from in space. My second issue is that these are advanced, high end ships manufactured by specific reputable corporations, not by just some random shipyard. Why are they covered in dirt? It looks silly. The only ship this would make sense on is minning ships, and even that sounds like a stretch. The amarian ships seem to have a great deal of detail brought out in their gold plating, but a loss of detail over the rest of the ship. Minmatar ships look great though :)

tl;dr- most ships look less detailed now, ccp seems to have become obsessed with shiny things. I say fix, or leave as is on tranquility

Glad to see the Amarr back to their gold color and not turd brown

The new lighting system has done wonders for the sense of scale on ships like the Machariel. Check it out in game, ignore the old looking textures and take a good look at it. The cabin windows now actually look like windows on many of the ships rather than blurry pixelated blobs of light. Obvious issues like the excessively shiny and aluminium looking gallente ships are obvious so I have no concerns regarding that. One thing I am hopeful for is that this will lead to higher resolution textures as this lighting system is incredibly unforgiving on these dated textures.

Have to agree, the Incursus was incredibly shiny on undock, just doesn't look right at all.

The PBR seems to be doing very nice things for the Gallente and Sansha ships in particular- nice to see the odd plastic'y sheen give way to something a bit more metallic. Plus everyone is loving the Golden Fleet being golden.

I do have a nagging suspicion that the Caldari ships are going to be hard to get right as a number of their hulls are a very old design indeed (the Rokh, Drake, etc.) and then you have some that are quite new and have gone is a different direction (Manticore, Moa, Blackbird). What works for one isn't necessarily going to work for the other and I suspect different shaders should be used to do the different generations justice.

Are we seeing the same images?

Just I think the newer ones look much improved.