Test Server Feedback

add WASD manual controll as option to be turned off and turned on

I think I've did half a turn so far, then the controls stopped working. Rebound them to cursor keys (to avoid them overlapping with overview hotkeys), yet my Dramiel doesn't want to turn. Am I doing something wrong?

I'm just playing on SISI with it now. It's fun but a little disorientating.

- If my ship is banking at 45 degrees and I push back I expect my ship to stay at that kind of banking and change direction perpendicular to my plane of travel. Instead I just end up pointing upwards.

- I tried some advanced maneuvers, such as going nose down, holding A and trying to corkscrew downwards, but rather than holding this and letting me drop height while spinning around, I soon end up spinning around on the near horizontal plane.

- The faster ships (I tested with a 1mn dramiel) seem quite a bit slippery, often overshooting where I'm trying to point them.


I think flight controls have absolutely fantastic potential, but they need to function better with regards to nose movement and direction of travel.

confirming the controls don't work for me with the tracking camera on

nor do they work on my pod.

Hello guys, I like the idea and the ability to opt into this so early is amazing.

Here is some feedback:

Since you need to be zoomed in order to see your ships direction and heading, please consider including ship vectors or something related in the overview so that we know who is approaching, who is moving away, and what their general heading is. When fighting multiple targets the overview is somewhat lacking in information, this is aided by zooming out.

It would also be nice in fleet fights and zoomed completely out to know which general direction your ship is heading, as it is now, ship trails, hull damage, or broadcasting are the only real way to know where your ship is located when zoomed completely out. Something to know where your ship is headed while zoomed out would accomplish the goal of helping newer players feel like they are in control, as well as helping everyone with situational awareness.

Maybe also include a hot-key to lock the closest target on overview? If you guys are leaning towards having more control on the keyboard, then this would be a nice feature. It would also be very helpful while kiting with this feature.

I don't know about this, but when zoomed out and playing purple boxes vs. other boxes online, it would be a cool idea to have an arrow to let you know which direction everyone is going. So it could instead be purple vectors vs. other vectors online.

Thanks for getting this feature up so quickly onto the test server.

-The pilot formerly known as FistyMcBumBasher

Tell me Mr Developer, why would a company produce two products, hype them to the sky, hope that everyone buys both and then suddenly merge them into an older product which will give them less revenue and waste development resources?

Except it's not a requirement in any shape or form to use one of them and the game is developed to work without one.

Could you also consider giving us an "Align to camera" keyboard shortcut? This plus these up-down left-right shortcuts should give us great flexibility.

I just had a crack on SiSi. It didn’t work at all even after disabling current WASD binding or resetting to defaults. And my Stabber had a funky new cloak (it was invisible except for a few points of light) but I guess that's part of the new visual work.

1. This definitely needs a follow camera.
2. I would never use a joystick for EVE - too much other stuff going on (but that’s just me).
3. You need to give thought to how you will handle default WASD binding.

At the moment on Singularity, W is bound to both Orbit and Up, A is bound to both Align and Left etc. If the goal is to allow new players to get a better grip on the UI then you absolutely need to change the default bindings. This will infuriate current users (of course) because WASD are probably the most commonly used hotkeys right now.

I suggest a WASD toggle to select Combat mode and Navigation mode. Set default to Navigation mode but publicise the toggle so that vets can switch is back to normal.

WOW!!!

I am not a noob, but am a Vet Eve player, but more so an FS user from 1995 through FSX & MS Flight development.

Any kind of many movement in a space ship fight game is an improvement & would bring on some proper dog fighting scenarios, especially those used to the WASD shift/ctrl/space group of players.

I agree; my first impressions of Eve from a long long time ago where based around flight simulator, Elite, Wind commander experience & the lack of direct flight input was debilitating to get used to.

Needless to say (without making Eve a flight simulator) some things need to be considered for those likely to go down the manual control (Stick) route:

The vector of the ship is in conflict with the turn & mass, the ship coming out of a turn up or down, when the ship should keep it's turn while modifying it's vector via delta-v.

Also coming out of a bank or nose up/down automatically makes if very 80's arcady, this also stops any form of immelman or other interception manoeuvres for dog fights. Need to be able to push past north or south for rolls, more variation in intercepts.

Following on from other posts, no direct input flight game would offer the vector for your own ship/craft, only for those of others for intercept or turret/gun tracking target purposes. But a chase camera option & a sitting in the pilot seat option IS essential.

I think the feature (for me) is a long awaited one. My biggest gripe being the spherical collision detection of most objects in Eve, not allowing you to hug objects, park close, hide behind objects, all weapons seem to magically ignore these objects when you are behind them or your enemy is (or even a friendly getting in the way) If this last paragraph is fixed it would make for a Very interesting game in eve (especially for fleet fights around stations or in asteroid fields). When behind an object you should be invulnerable to all but a homing missile (of sorts)

Either way it makes for expansion of the point click, click weapon & wait for enemy to die mythology & will allow people with real Stick skills to earn names within Eden.

I love it & on the edge of my seat to see where CCP takes this (or as usual F`s it up LOL, maybe they'll listen, but history teaches us otherwise)

Signed (not so bitter) Vet.