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Dev blog: Quick, give me manual control!

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Crasniya
The Aussienauts
#61 - 2014-11-14 14:53:20 UTC
Care Less wrote:
CCP must be terrified of the damage Elite: Dangerous coming out will do to the bottom line to make such drastic changes....


They freaking need to be.

Good to see them trying to spice things up a bit.

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Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy
Caldari State
#62 - 2014-11-14 14:53:32 UTC
Mostlyharmlesss wrote:
This is a pants on head ******** gimmick that could've been developed into another, more useful, feature.

Like, say, make the current well working mechanics more obvious and easy to use.


I think all the feces covered pants in the room disagree with you.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#63 - 2014-11-14 14:55:27 UTC
Any chance this would be possible with a joystick, where the joystick could be used concurrently with the keyboard and mouse? Would be amazingly useful for orbiting.
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#64 - 2014-11-14 14:55:32 UTC
Mostlyharmlesss wrote:
This is a pants on head ******** gimmick that could've been developed into another, more useful, feature.

Like, say, make the current well working mechanics more obvious and easy to use.


Only in Eve will you find people who object to sensible gameplay mechanics. Do you want to control your car with mouse-clicks, too?
Ravcharas
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#65 - 2014-11-14 14:56:04 UTC
Looking forward to testing it.

My initial reaction was that we'll really need some kind of vector indicator graphic in the main window for when you are even slightly zoomed out, which is quite often in my case.
Lucrii Dei
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#66 - 2014-11-14 15:00:06 UTC
Why do CCP need to be afraid of Elite: Dangerous?

Looked up images of it and got confused because it looks like Valkyrie. Smile

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Lady Rift
His Majesty's Privateers
#67 - 2014-11-14 15:00:43 UTC
Owen Levanth wrote:
Mostlyharmlesss wrote:
This is a pants on head ******** gimmick that could've been developed into another, more useful, feature.

Like, say, make the current well working mechanics more obvious and easy to use.


Only in Eve will you find people who object to sensible gameplay mechanics. Do you want to control your car with mouse-clicks, too?



yes If i could set my route and just click to start and not have to worry about anything else on the way there yes please
Haege Estidal
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#68 - 2014-11-14 15:01:33 UTC
Well done CCP, well done.......wait this for years P so happy very happy so exciting...Twisted
Ronen Osden
Ronen's NEW And Improved Mining Services
#69 - 2014-11-14 15:04:15 UTC
I was debating with myself if this would ever be feasible. I'm astonished its almost here.

I'm not so sold on arrow keys for movement. Joystick is better, but I was honestly expecting a hotkey to hold and then ship follows mouse movement on screen.

Still not going to complain too much, as I too have been waiting for this for 6 years.

Since there is no "up" in space, Im interested to see if you will able to do back flips and thusly fly "upside down" to the rest of the EVE universe. Since at the moment all vessels are always pointed "up".

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Kynric
Sky Fighters
Rote Kapelle
#70 - 2014-11-14 15:06:28 UTC
Wow. Unexpected happiness is the best feeling.
CCP Nullarbor
C C P
C C P Alliance
#71 - 2014-11-14 15:06:46 UTC
Ronen Osden wrote:
Since there is no "up" in space, Im interested to see if you will able to do back flips and thusly fly "upside down" to the rest of the EVE universe. Since at the moment all vessels are always pointed "up".


No up means actually upwards relative to the solarsystem not based on the roll of your ship. In practice it works out a lot easier to control but you won't be flying your ship upside down.

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Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#72 - 2014-11-14 15:07:55 UTC
Any accurate depiction of my gratitude for this change would get me banned, so I'll just say: excellent, well done.

I am so very much looking forward to this.

Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables.

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Max Kolonko
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#73 - 2014-11-14 15:08:12 UTC
What is this CCP, making changes to core control mechanics based on NPE testing??? Who are You and what have You done to the real CCP???
Aeril Malkyre
Knights of the Ouroboros
#74 - 2014-11-14 15:08:17 UTC
I don't even need to test it. YES. FRELLING YES!!!!!!

Also joystick support: YES. FRELLING YES.

I will buy a joystick just for that. I am not shitting you.

DO. THIS. THING.
Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#75 - 2014-11-14 15:08:18 UTC
Would be great if we could someday soon pilot our ships with a joystick where it's appropriate; I see this as useful in dogfighting situations while in many other situations, like piloting a freighter, dreadnought or even battleship, the classic mouse-click-control makes more sense.

However, to become more than a gimmick, it must be possible to also interact with the game world. If I can change my direction with a joystick but still have to operate the mouse to choose, lock and shoot a target, jump through a gate etc, then the value is quite limited.

Tbh, modernising EVE in such a way that real immersive piloting becomes possible, should have been done instead of Incarna. It's a goal that is much more attainable and also more useful for EVE.

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Evelgrivion
State War Academy
Caldari State
#76 - 2014-11-14 15:08:27 UTC
CCP Nullarbor wrote:
Querns wrote:
Amazing. This has been something that has been missing from eve for a long time. I approve mightily.

However, you must understand what you have unleashed. The inch-mile scenario here is basically guaranteed! I hope you're prepared to weather the inundation of requests for analog joystick support.

(i'd buy one for eve)


Joystick support is not a big leap, we will have a look into this if the testing goes well.


Give it to me now!


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Thead Enco
Valkyre Black
#77 - 2014-11-14 15:08:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Thead Enco
CCP Nullarbor wrote:
I will update this post as soon as we have this ready for testing on Singularity. Saturday morning is our current estimate.

Joystick Support?
Yes it would be possible, we will look into this if the testing goes well.

Can i rebind the keys?
Yes, in the settings menu.

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Carebears on Fire
#78 - 2014-11-14 15:08:51 UTC
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Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#79 - 2014-11-14 15:08:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Phoenix Jones
Lucrii Dei wrote:
Why do CCP need to be afraid of Elite: Dangerous?

Looked up images of it and got confused because it looks like Valkyrie. Smile



That company did what star citizen tried to do, with less than half the budget, and made it interesting. their pace is scary fast. It's a new player on the block.

Yaay!!!!

Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#80 - 2014-11-14 15:09:16 UTC
CCP Nullarbor wrote:
Ronen Osden wrote:
Since there is no "up" in space, Im interested to see if you will able to do back flips and thusly fly "upside down" to the rest of the EVE universe. Since at the moment all vessels are always pointed "up".


No up means actually upwards relative to the solarsystem not based on the roll of your ship. In practice it works out a lot easier to control but you won't be flying your ship upside down.


So still submarines, gotcha.