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epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#21 - 2014-11-14 10:56:51 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
I think the whole point of it is that it is NOT capable of keeping up with the killing, as then it is salvaging on easy mode.
If it existed in that form then there would be effects on the market place and values would change to compensate, leaving us in exactly the same place.

Now the suggestion that the T2 tractor was different purely in that it harvested the furthest wreck first, or you could target it over ruling the default choice, then Yes, that would be good.



But easy mode insta loot would not be a good thing, and the noctis and the salvaging profession would become history. And you still would not have more isk.

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Ceawlin Cobon-Han
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2014-11-14 12:01:49 UTC
epicurus ataraxia wrote:
I think the whole point of it is that it is NOT capable of keeping up with the killing, as then it is salvaging on easy mode.
If it existed in that form then there would be effects on the market place and values would change to compensate, leaving us in exactly the same place.

Now the suggestion that the T2 tractor was different purely in that it harvested the furthest wreck first, or you could target it over ruling the default choice, then Yes, that would be good.



But easy mode insta loot would not be a good thing, and the noctis and the salvaging profession would become history. And you still would not have more isk.

It tractors faster. How easy it is to salvage is not affected. It just means I sit around less.

How that breaks salvaging I can't see. The MTU hasn't done it so far and neither have salvage drones.
Aivlis Eldelbar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2014-11-14 14:12:24 UTC
How about you bookmark the MTU, go run another site, then come back to the now full MTU?
Also, you should accept that the slow speed is intended to be worse than doing it manually with a Noctis, slim chance of getting it changed without better arguments than "I want it to tractor faster" so I can carebear harder.
Ceawlin Cobon-Han
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2014-11-14 14:20:29 UTC
Aivlis Eldelbar wrote:
How about you bookmark the MTU, go run another site, then come back to the now full MTU?
Also, you should accept that the slow speed is intended to be worse than doing it manually with a Noctis, slim chance of getting it changed without better arguments than "I want it to tractor faster" so I can carebear harder.

I want a T2 version, not a change to the current unit. Please read the OP. As to your comment regarding "carebear": your attempt to troll was miserable. You have failed.
Azda Ja
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2014-11-14 15:45:30 UTC
Just because you want a change, doesn't mean the change is good.

Grrr.
Ceawlin Cobon-Han
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2014-11-14 19:58:39 UTC
Azda Ja wrote:
Just because you want a change, doesn't mean the change is good.

Doesn't make it bad. It does give manufacturers something else to build, meaning I can have my T2 MTU. No-one loses and I win, which is not a bad scenario.
Jurico Elemenohpe
Flipsid3 Tactics
#27 - 2014-11-15 11:18:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Jurico Elemenohpe
Ceawlin Cobon-Han wrote:
Jurico Elemenohpe wrote:

In your mad dash to look "cool" did you even read the reply? He said so that it can work with your own tractor beams.
Also, if you want people to know what you're talking about, say what you're talking about, not some riddle that people reading on autopilot won't understand.
Also, it might not break the game, but it invalidates the main use of the faction ones. Unless you use the faction ones to make it harder to probe, but that's just weird.

Your attempt to claw back some cred has failed. I have no tractors, which is why I use an MTU. Do keep up.
I don't see what that has to do with anything. The point was that you didn't even read his post, not about the fact the content of his post doesn't really matter because you won't or can't for some reason use tractor beams.
You also didn't even cover the point that it largely invalidates faction ones.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#28 - 2014-11-15 11:41:08 UTC
Ceawlin Cobon-Han wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:

then buy a marauder and use that and a mtu, cherry pick the best wrecks yourself and leave the crap for the mtu.

How about have a T2 MTU that tractors faster the wrecks? Saves spending loads of isk on a T2 ship, and solves in one the problem outlined in the OP. You solution is valid, but a bit over the top.

hardly ott,, marauders are awesome ships and if you are going to run missions id have a hard time recommending anything els for the job.

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#29 - 2014-11-15 11:54:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
Ceawlin Cobon-Han wrote:
"All the capsuleer needs to do is keep up the pace of destruction."

Unfortunately the reverse is true; it's the MTU that cannot keep up. A faster version is required, and I don't mean the named versions.

T2 MTU to tractor at 2k/s; double the speed of the T1. Sounds good, doesn't break the game.


If only there was something in the game that worked better than the T1/named MTUs.

Oh wait. It's called a Noctis.

Use one.

Nevyn Auscent wrote:
The main issue is actually that it starts close and works out. It should start far and work in so your own tractor beams can work also.

CCP has stated that this will never happen as it steps on the Noctis' toes too much.
Zekora Rally
U2EZ
#30 - 2014-11-15 12:43:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Zekora Rally
An MTU that can pull in wrecks at 1500m/s sounds good enough for a T2 version but then who would use the T1?
Komi Toran
Perkone
Caldari State
#31 - 2014-11-15 15:01:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Komi Toran
Ceawlin Cobon-Han wrote:
Komi Toran wrote:
Use drone boat. Bring two. Fit salvagers in the highs. Done

In your mad dash to look "cool" did you even read the post? The subject is speed of tractor, not salvaging. Do keep up.

You need the salvagers to get rid of the wrecks, otherwise the MTUs keep tractoring the same wreck back and forth.

Do keep up.
Zekora Rally wrote:
An MTU that can pull in wrecks at 1500m/s sounds good enough for a T2 version.

So what do you propose the Packrat and Magpie MTUs be raised up to?
Ceawlin Cobon-Han
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2014-11-16 16:24:05 UTC
Komi Toran wrote:
Ceawlin Cobon-Han wrote:
Komi Toran wrote:
Use drone boat. Bring two. Fit salvagers in the highs. Done

In your mad dash to look "cool" did you even read the post? The subject is speed of tractor, not salvaging. Do keep up.

You need the salvagers to get rid of the wrecks, otherwise the MTUs keep tractoring the same wreck back and forth.

Do keep up.
Zekora Rally wrote:
An MTU that can pull in wrecks at 1500m/s sounds good enough for a T2 version.

So what do you propose the Packrat and Magpie MTUs be raised up to?


  1. It wasn't me who said "use 2 MTU's" which, let's face it, was just a device to let you impress people with your understanding of MTU mechanics. As I'm not impressed: you have failed.
  2. I don't give a damn about faction MTUs, I want manufacturers to build me an MTU with twice the tractor speed. I have stated already my requirements. Perhaps you have somehow misunderstood?
Kitt JT
True North.
#33 - 2014-11-17 09:40:31 UTC
Troll detected.

Move along.

Move along.
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