EVE General Discussion

I disagree with best. Most versatile, yes, but what's actually best would depend on what you're doing with it.

I personally think the Ishkur is a very underrated ship in bigger circles though, but I have all max skills for all racial assault frigates and I have found, flying literally all of them, that each one has its unique strengths and weaknesses. I'm in a Hawk at the moment with a 360dps tank thanks to dual MASB and it can hit a little under 3km/s, excellent for killing frigs but to get that tank and speed you lose some potential dps, and i'm only getting 165 with Scourge Furies so against cruisers and stuff, sure it'll work as heavy fast tackle that can probably tank your target, but you may need more dps on the field if you hope to kill it.

The Jag is also one of my favourites. I tended to find that against other assault frigates, the Ishkur came up a bit short, and the Jag really fills that hole nicely. Again, dual ASB but use dual smalls and you can fit 150mms and neut with a damage control and fill your lows with gyros, MWD fit with scram and you can put some real hurt on other assault frigs. I used one in a cap battle some time ago against BL when I was flying with SYJ, and lead a small wing of four frigates total, mixed bag. Our role was killing drones, and I couldn't say how many I killed but it was a lot. After there were no more drones to kill, myself and another in my wing hero tackled a moros trying to make it back to a pos shield, and he got stomped, followed by a napoc and ishtar that we also hero tackled. The rest made it to shield.

At one point during the battle, I noticed I was taking damage from something but not more than running one ASB could handle. What was weird to me at the time was, I couldn't see ANYTHING red boxing me. It wasn't till after the battle that I remembered flying close to a Maelstrom, and BNI who had been at the battle in a large gang of interceptors had landed at zero on it, and all died almost instantly to his smartbombs. That's when I learned how capable a shield tanked Jag really is - it survived a smartbombing maelstrom, which i was orbiting close to stay under guns (cuz i expected it to have guns). Pretty wicked little ship.

All the others have uses as well, but there are plenty of times when I'll use something more appropriate in certain circumstances. A fleet fight we had against an NC. blops fleet the other day... I'm not skilled for Ishtars, but they called for an Ishtar fleet. Not many of us were skilled for ishtars, actually, so we had to wing it. Knowing their bait carrier was a trap, I opted for not taking an assault frigate this time around, and chose a Bellicose with dual paints to give Ishtar sentries a boost.

End of the day, it all comes down to what's right for the job. But as long as I can find a purpose for an assault frigate, that's probably what i'll be in.

ENYO!!! I named my cockatiel Enyo cuz I'm a nerd...

I edited my post above btw with some further thoughts. I know it's an essay but it was on my mind so I just wrote it.

Mine's a girl, girl cockatiel's will imitate but they are much less likely to. Enyo tweets and squawks from time to time, especially when she's demanding attention. But she'll sit on my shoulder and preen my beard while I play EVE. If she gets bored of that, she'll jump down and start exploring my desk. So I hide sunflower seeds around on it, under bits of paper and CDs and stuff, and she moves the stuff to get to it.

To the OP:

Don't get depressed for being killed a few times! Learn from your mistakes and from advices, practice, don't fly what you can't afford to lose, and eventually you'll laugh at those gatecamps and you'll get those A-Types :)

And if you really like being out there, consider migrating to "permanently" live in Lowsec and bring some friends (or make them there).

Go for it, don't be depressed ;)

And yes, if you haven't guessed. Remiel... challenge accepted. Poasts I may have made prior to reading this thread notwithstanding. I shall refrain. I shall engage my SEP field at 150% effectiveness. I've actually echoed your sentiments in regards to this matter before, but by the grace of the Flying Spaghetti Monster... I just haven't been able to stop chasing that damned red dot. I could blame the booze, but that would be a weak excuse when we both know it's the enormous amount of WRONG that draws the attention and demands the response. Yes, I know it may very well go away if simply ignored, but restraining that urge to verbally stomp it into the ground like Homer Simpson in the episode with the Screamapillar is a herculean effort at times.
I shall embrace the spirit of restraint and do what I can. I'll call it a win if I can make it 24 hours. I'll consider myself nearly as awesome as he does if I can make it a week. If I make it the distance I shall consider myself the incarnation of the god of restraint in mortal flesh.

RvB doesn't like me????? Oh no....what's next? Will the grand Eve Uni not be my friend either????

Honestly I could care less what you guys think about me....I happen to believe that given the current awoxxing/wardeccs/theft mechanics highsec corps are essentially useless....but obviously you are entitled to disagree. I don't really have issues with your (consensual) PvP in highsec....and I'm more than happy for you to continue it unimpeded (though the awoxxing changes may crimp your play).

I would probably take your analysis more seriously if I felt that the average RvB player was capable of reading through this thread and understanding the issues...but of course I do not....so please do carry on.

Yours,

Veers

The True Savior of Highsec

You would be better off in the blue donut than in lame T1 frig battles around Jita. Brave Newbies (another group I have little regard for) at least realized how pointless corporations in highsec are and moved to nullsec....now they weren't competent enough to take down Provibloc...but at least they get an A for effort.

The great RvB spends their time engaging in T1 frigs around Jita....WOW....CAN I HOPE TO BE LIKE YOU SOMEDAY??????

And your last sentence isn't even coherent.... "and I can promise you we've helped more new players along than you and your silly little quixotic crusade for the lowest form of bottom feeder could ever dream of doing."

Huh? That's the problem with arguing with RvB...they can't even understand the issues sufficiently to make a point, much less express themselves in coherent English. It's like trying to debate a musty shoebox....all you get is a cough and a headache....

So move along...and go kill a T1 frig in Jita for me.

Veers

Do you know what the mature thing is to do when you find someone you don't like on the forums? Just ignore them.

If you pay attention, it's always the other folks who start with the name calling/personal/attacks/flame wars.

Obviously that's not going to deter me from advocating for a safer and more humane highsec...but I would definitely be in favor of a major forum crackdown on people who start with the name calling/personal attacking garbage. Don't get your hopes up though.....

And the people who don't "like" me here are the 1% who get their thrills from making PvE highsec players rage and cry. Which is fine, if these people liked me, then I would be concerned.

veers.....maturity is not a discussion im willing to endure....with that.....if you want high-sec to be the rogue encampment from diablo 2 then you should probably move on.....

oh yeah and your avatar is ugly.

plenty more.....im lurking in all your posts.