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Dev blog: Thera and the Shattered Wormholes

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Crasniya
The Aussienauts
#21 - 2014-11-13 16:52:38 UTC
Pretty excited to see the first actual content development in EVE since 2011. Unique locations have been sorely missing from EVE, and Thera looks like it tackles that while retaining a distinctly EVE flair.

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Nagarythe Tinurandir
Einheit X-6
#22 - 2014-11-13 16:55:29 UTC
*squeal of glee*
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#23 - 2014-11-13 16:55:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Nice info and Thera sounds interesting.

One thing: Can one of the gas giants please be one of this type: Orange Band Gas Giant. They look stunning and are used way too rarely in EVE.


Can you give me the location of one of those on TQ? I'll poke into it's texture maps and see.

No promises though.


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Querns
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-11-13 16:58:03 UTC
Oh, another question -- the small shattered wormhole sites are listed as having small ship wormholes. Are these normal wormholes, or are they the kind that regenerate mass?

This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#25 - 2014-11-13 16:58:44 UTC
Going over this info, if the t3 destroyers pan out, you would have made the entire wormhole community very happy. The c5 and c6 sites in these new standard holes would have to be looked at for difficulty and value of running. Also the wormhole mass cap would need to be looked at (both in these new holes and Thera, as 3 freighters collapse a capital size wormhole.

Yaay!!!!
Obil Que
Star Explorers
Solis Tenebris
#26 - 2014-11-13 16:58:46 UTC
Can you clarify. Are the Standard Shattered additional k-space statics tied to specific security levels as is insinuated by the dev blog?

For example: Will Standard Shattered system #4 (for lack of a better designation) always connect to a 0.9 system via it's additional k-space static? And if this is the case, is it system specific or class specific? Is #4 tied to 0.9 because it is a Class 1 or is #4 tied to 0.9 because it is #4?

Or are those k-space statics completely random like existing k-space statics?
Lyron-Baktos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-11-13 17:00:40 UTC
We don't need more worm hole systems. We already have way to many empty systems as it is. Please remove 101 empty systems and just replace them with these.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#28 - 2014-11-13 17:02:29 UTC
Might be a dumb question, as these are shattered planets (if I read that right) does this mean no PI?

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

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Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy
Caldari State
#29 - 2014-11-13 17:03:18 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
Might be a dumb question, as these are shattered planets (if I read that right) does this mean no PI?


That certainly sounds like the intention.
sereneabt
#30 - 2014-11-13 17:03:34 UTC
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Querns
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#31 - 2014-11-13 17:04:30 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
Might be a dumb question, as these are shattered planets (if I read that right) does this mean no PI?

This is correct -- Shattered planets have no resources available from Planetary Interaction.

There are actually a few shattered planets in k-space and some in (the current) w-space. Having whole systems full of them certainly points towards some nefarious means of creating a shattered planet rather than their occasional natural occurrence.

This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
scimichar
Deep Hole Explorers of New Eden
#32 - 2014-11-13 17:06:01 UTC  |  Edited by: scimichar
Can we get Thera added to the moveme channel so we don't have to randomly scan a hundred wormholes to find it?

edit nm

CCP Lebowski wrote:
Greeting Intrepid test server explorers,
...

1. Join 'movemethera' chat channel
2. Type 'moveme'
3. Enjoy your free trip to the new frontier


nm :D
[/quote]
Tahnil
Gunboat Commando
#33 - 2014-11-13 17:07:00 UTC
Awesome!
Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#34 - 2014-11-13 17:08:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Phoenix Jones
Mizhir wrote:
Phoenix Jones wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
This is looking good. I like the concept of the shattered systems for attracting preys and predators. Though I have one major issue with the small ship ones. If you give them the normal C6 WR bonus you will just exclude shield ships. Make it a special WH effect instead (which could also be integrated in the lore and why they only allow small ships).



It's not possible to bonus both shield and armor (they function very differently). What I would have considered is the cataclysmic variable, except that would nerf solo play and anybody with 1 frig Logi would own....
But that would balance out ship options (though I get that people are sick of crow's online).


Well, they could just buff the damage and some other fun stats and then leave tanking out of it.



I guess not many people have run wormhole sites in a frigate before. To do a c3, takes a decently fit frigate (minimum faction repairer). It's possible, but with spawns out at 70km, the alpha would rip though most of your tank in 1 shot (had that happen in both my faction fit armor and dead space fit assault frig). The effect keeps the ship on field and makes it capable of doing the site with less fear of bad transversal or a lucky shot.

I get the idea that they took that into account. There may not be a viable way of doing both shield and armor in these systems, and make people use them (while variety is nice, making it so varied that people can't just have one standard doctrine makes people just completely avoid going in the system period).

Frig holes, all armor. Ok.

Yaay!!!!
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#35 - 2014-11-13 17:09:00 UTC
Been waiting for this devblog for a long time! Reading time Big smile

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CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#36 - 2014-11-13 17:09:00 UTC
Obil Que wrote:

Or are those k-space statics completely random like existing k-space statics?

The k-space statics in the new systems work like normal k-space statics. They'll aim at a specific security class (HS,LS,NS) but otherwise be random.

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2014-11-13 17:09:12 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Nice info and Thera sounds interesting.

One thing: Can one of the gas giants please be one of this type: Orange Band Gas Giant. They look stunning and are used way too rarely in EVE.

i like the planets with rings. the belts around it can be so close to the rings, it's very pretty
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#38 - 2014-11-13 17:09:51 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
Might be a dumb question, as these are shattered planets (if I read that right) does this mean no PI?


Yes, there is no PI in any of the shattered systems, including in Thera (Thera isn't all shattered planets but at least for now we're not enabling PI there).

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CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#39 - 2014-11-13 17:12:08 UTC
scimichar wrote:
Can we get Thera added to the moveme channel so we don't have to randomly scan a hundred wormholes to find it?


Yes indeed! All the details on how to use the new Thera moveme bot can be found in CCP Lebowski's thread over in the Test Server Forums.

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Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#40 - 2014-11-13 17:12:10 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
DaReaper wrote:
Might be a dumb question, as these are shattered planets (if I read that right) does this mean no PI?


Yes, there is no PI in any of the shattered systems, including in Thera (Thera isn't all shattered planets but at least for now we're not enabling PI there).


the pocos would offer some conflict drivers there.. and good planets for steady income for residents there..

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using