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Why I don't go to lowsec.

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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#261 - 2014-11-13 01:30:44 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
While I am a boy, calling him a narcissist is not an insult, it's an observation. An acute one, I believe.


As is calling you a troll and delusional to boot.
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Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#262 - 2014-11-13 01:31:56 UTC
EVE is built on the core principle that you are never 100% safe, no matter where you go or what you do. When you interact with another player, you roll the dice on whether they're going to screw you over or not. That's a massive part of the social engineering behind the very basic underpinnings of the EVE Universe.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#263 - 2014-11-13 01:31:59 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
While I am a boy, calling him a narcissist is not an insult, it's an observation. An acute one, I believe.


As is calling you a troll and delusional to boot.


Nope, not until you prove it. Until then, it's a personal attack. Grow up.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#264 - 2014-11-13 01:33:31 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
While I am a boy, calling him a narcissist is not an insult, it's an observation. An acute one, I believe.


As is calling you a troll and delusional to boot.


Nope, not until you prove it. Until then, it's a personal attack. Grow up.


The better course is to stop all the name calling and then nothing needs to be proved. Unlikely Kauros will agree to that.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#265 - 2014-11-13 01:37:34 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
While I am a boy, calling him a narcissist is not an insult, it's an observation. An acute one, I believe.


As is calling you a troll and delusional to boot.


A narcissist often relies on the tactic of accusing others of having flaws he himself possesses.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#266 - 2014-11-13 01:38:26 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
While I am a boy, calling him a narcissist is not an insult, it's an observation. An acute one, I believe.


As is calling you a troll and delusional to boot.


Nope, not until you prove it. Until then, it's a personal attack. Grow up.


The better course is to stop all the name calling and then nothing needs to be proved. Unlikely Kauros will agree to that.


First of all, 'personal attack' and 'accurate description' are mutually exclusive. Secondly, how the hell did you manage to spell Kaarous' name wrong with it written right there in the post you were quoting?

You're on these forums all the time posting the most arrogant, narcissistic tripe I've ever seen from anyone, even more than James 315. At least when he posts, people are entertained. All your drivel does is give me diarrhea. Your opinions about EVE PVP are so far against the grain, so far against the nature of the game, that we have determined you have no interest in the game as it was intended, and as it has developed, for more than a decade. You can bet your bottom dollar, and make a million back easily, if you were to bet that CCP think you're as much of a moron regarding EVE as we do. The difference is, they need to be professional on the forums and maintain an air of civility.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#267 - 2014-11-13 01:38:56 UTC  |  Edited by: PotatoOverdose
Hmmm....
When Veers started posting his threads/posts were more entertaining than typical Dinsdale/Gevlon/Infinity Ziona posts, as were the responses that he managed to provoke.

But now the overall level of quality has gone down quite a bit, deteriorating to the usual poo slinging that dominates these forums. Disappointing.
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Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#268 - 2014-11-13 01:42:06 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
While I am a boy, calling him a narcissist is not an insult, it's an observation. An acute one, I believe.


As is calling you a troll and delusional to boot.


Nope, not until you prove it. Until then, it's a personal attack. Grow up.


The better course is to stop all the name calling and then nothing needs to be proved. Unlikely Kauros will agree to that.


Your posts are becoming a little formulaic.
Step 1. Moral/Intellectual High Ground Claim
Step 2. Undermine my own moral high ground by implying others are worse.

Sometimes you switch the order, sometimes you include tangents or perceived links to other things that we can see are unrelated.

The best bit is you don't seem to understand that you do it.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#269 - 2014-11-13 01:42:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Veers Belvar
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
While I am a boy, calling him a narcissist is not an insult, it's an observation. An acute one, I believe.


As is calling you a troll and delusional to boot.


Nope, not until you prove it. Until then, it's a personal attack. Grow up.


The better course is to stop all the name calling and then nothing needs to be proved. Unlikely Kauros will agree to that.


First of all, 'personal attack' and 'accurate description' are mutually exclusive. Secondly, how the hell did you manage to spell Kaarous' name wrong with it written right there in the post you were quoting?

You're on these forums all the time posting the most arrogant, narcissistic tripe I've ever seen from anyone, even more than James 315. At least when he posts, people are entertained. All your drivel does is give me diarrhea. Your opinions about EVE PVP are so far against the grain, so far against the nature of the game, that we have determined you have no interest in the game as it was intended, and as it has developed, for more than a decade. You can bet your bottom dollar, and make a million back easily, if you were to bet that CCP think you're as much of a moron regarding EVE as we do. The difference is, they need to be professional on the forums and maintain an air of civility.


No time for your stupidity Remmie...suffice to say when awoxxing goes that's a pretty strong indication they agree with me and not with you.

Not interested in repsonding to the rest of your trolling - try harder.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#270 - 2014-11-13 01:43:56 UTC
Cancel Align NOW wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
While I am a boy, calling him a narcissist is not an insult, it's an observation. An acute one, I believe.


As is calling you a troll and delusional to boot.


Nope, not until you prove it. Until then, it's a personal attack. Grow up.


The better course is to stop all the name calling and then nothing needs to be proved. Unlikely Kauros will agree to that.


Your posts are becoming a little formulaic.
Step 1. Moral/Intellectual High Ground Claim
Step 2. Undermine my own moral high ground by implying others are worse.

Sometimes you switch the order, sometimes you include tangents or perceived links to other things that we can see are unrelated.

The best bit is you don't seem to understand that you do it.


Higher - not high.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#271 - 2014-11-13 01:45:06 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:

Higher - not high.


No, you're definitely high again.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Cancel Align NOW
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#272 - 2014-11-13 01:45:25 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:


No time for your stupidity Remmie...suffice to say when awoxxing goes that's a pretty strong indication they exist with me and not with you.

Not interested in repsonding to the rest of your trolling - try harder.


They are not with you. You can think they are. But they are not. They even say the opposite of what you want. Here it goes again this is what CCP say about Eve:

CCP Falcon wrote:
EVE is built on the core principle that you are never 100% safe, no matter where you go or what you do. When you interact with another player, you roll the dice on whether they're going to screw you over or not. That's a massive part of the social engineering behind the very basic underpinnings of the EVE Universe.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#273 - 2014-11-13 01:45:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Veers Belvar wrote:


Higher - not high.


Maybe just stop taking the ganj altogether so your brains have a chance to grow back.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#274 - 2014-11-13 01:46:58 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:


Higher - not high.


Maybe just stop taking the ganj altogether so your brains have a chance to grow back.


Seriously, mon.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#275 - 2014-11-13 01:48:19 UTC
Cancel Align NOW wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:


No time for your stupidity Remmie...suffice to say when awoxxing goes that's a pretty strong indication they exist with me and not with you.

Not interested in repsonding to the rest of your trolling - try harder.


They are not with you. You can think they are. But they are not. They even say the opposite of what you want. Here it goes again this is what CCP say about Eve:

CCP Falcon wrote:
EVE is built on the core principle that you are never 100% safe, no matter where you go or what you do. When you interact with another player, you roll the dice on whether they're going to screw you over or not. That's a massive part of the social engineering behind the very basic underpinnings of the EVE Universe.


So why is awoxxing going? Why is tear collecting on coms frowned upon? And why has concord been buffed and ganking nerfed? Focus on facts, not opinions. Buffing freighters was a fact, etc....
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#276 - 2014-11-13 01:54:29 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Cancel Align NOW wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:


No time for your stupidity Remmie...suffice to say when awoxxing goes that's a pretty strong indication they exist with me and not with you.

Not interested in repsonding to the rest of your trolling - try harder.


They are not with you. You can think they are. But they are not. They even say the opposite of what you want. Here it goes again this is what CCP say about Eve:

CCP Falcon wrote:
EVE is built on the core principle that you are never 100% safe, no matter where you go or what you do. When you interact with another player, you roll the dice on whether they're going to screw you over or not. That's a massive part of the social engineering behind the very basic underpinnings of the EVE Universe.


So why is awoxxing going? Why is tear collecting on coms frowned upon? And why has concord been buffed and ganking nerfed? Focus on facts, not opinions. Buffing freighters was a fact, etc....


This is the same reasoning as saying, "oh they removed Thimerasol from vaccines so it MUST be dangerous". Even when they explicitly state that's not why it was done. You're visiting CCP's intentions without regard to their explicitly stated intentions, which demonstrates you to be a moron. Hence why calling you a moron is an accurate description, and not a personal attack.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

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Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#277 - 2014-11-13 02:01:12 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:


So why is awoxxing going? Why is tear collecting on coms frowned upon? And why has concord been buffed and ganking nerfed? Focus on facts, not opinions. Buffing freighters was a fact, etc....



Awoxing is going because Goons asked for it go.
Tear collecting is taking an in game action and turning it into a real life humiliation.
The last two occurred before you started playing and you only know about cause you tried to argue that ganking is way more common now that it ever has been.

If CCP say space should never be 100% safe then it won't be. That is as factual as you can get in eve Online.

Veers Belvar wrote:
Focus on facts not opinions, nice disparaging cliche there
there it goes the unfounded claim of the intellectual high ground coupled with the disparaging of the opponent.

True to form Veers regurgitates some more.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#278 - 2014-11-13 02:19:55 UTC
Cancel Align NOW wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:


So why is awoxxing going? Why is tear collecting on coms frowned upon? And why has concord been buffed and ganking nerfed? Focus on facts, not opinions. Buffing freighters was a fact, etc....



Awoxing is going because Goons asked for it go.
Tear collecting is taking an in game action and turning it into a real life humiliation.
The last two occurred before you started playing and you only know about cause you tried to argue that ganking is way more common now that it ever has been.

If CCP say space should never be 100% safe then it won't be. That is as factual as you can get in eve Online.

Veers Belvar wrote:
Focus on facts not opinions, nice disparaging cliche there
there it goes the unfounded claim of the intellectual high ground coupled with the disparaging of the opponent.

True to form Veers regurgitates some more.


stop with cts, goons didnt kill awoxxing..ccp did. its bad for the game and discourages highsec corps, just like wardeccs, thefts, etc... I was here for both actions, btw, not sure what you are talking about.

Agree with space not being 100% safe, never said there should be no suicide ganking, but would like crackdowns on -10. Would also like more danger in sov null, which is far too safe.....and needs nerfed rewards as a result.

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#279 - 2014-11-13 02:22:21 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Would also like more danger in sov null, which is far too safe.....and needs nerfed rewards as a result.



People like you should pray that CCP never does rebalance this game based on risk vs reward. Because if they do, there will be no income above 20mil/hr left in highsec when they're done.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#280 - 2014-11-13 02:23:38 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Would also like more danger in sov null, which is far too safe.....and needs nerfed rewards as a result.



People like you should pray that CCP never does rebalance this game based on risk vs reward. Because if they do, there will be no income above 20mil/hr left in highsec when they're done.


Fine with that - Dekklein would max out at 5 mil....would wipe out sov null - everyone back to highsec.