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Standings and Security Status questions
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Ana K
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2011-12-14 22:57:28 UTC
Two questions:

First, I was thinking about doing low sec roams. Outside of war decs, I understand you lose security status when you attack other players. Does attacking other players also ruin your standings with NPC corps? Or does it just decrease your security standing only?

Second, how much does it take to get to a -2.0 security standing (I saw the chart, this is the standing where you can be attacked in 1.0 systems by faction navies)? How many kills exactly would get you to -2.0 (if that's easy to determine)? And how many missions would it take to get it back up (Level 2's and 3's) to about 1.0 or so?

I'm sure there are a lot of details but ballpark answers would be helpful for starters.

Thanks!
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#2 - 2011-12-15 00:36:53 UTC
1) just sec and only in high and low, null and WHs don't have sec losses

2) No set number, the losses are a % of your current standing and change depending on if you podded someone or how big their ship was or the security of the system and stuff like that.

The Drake is a Lie
Zi'Boo
Zi'Corp
#3 - 2011-12-15 05:02:19 UTC
Had a nice post but the forum ate it...

So here I go again:

1. You'll always get sec status hits and also if the victim is in a NPC corp you'll lose standings with that NPC corp.
The amount of sec status loss varies and depends on several factors:
- Your sec status
- Victims sec status
- System sec status
- weather the victim shot back or not
- was it a ship or a pod

2. Generally from memory (but it may be completely wrong as it's been ages since I fought in low sec) it was about 0.2 for aggression and 1.5 for kill if the victim didn't shoot back. Those are just a estimate and as I've mentioned before they'll vary a bit.
The other thing about them is that the changes to sec status are percentage based, so you'll always get the same percentage for the same type of kill but the actual sec status deduction will be different. So the higher your sec status is the faster you lose it, and also the lower it is the faster you gain it while ratting.

As for gaining the sec status back - you only get one increase per 15 minute (possibly 20 minute) session of ratting for the highest value rat you've killed in that period. From memory for BS rats it was from around 0.1 to 0.25 increase per session.
The session time are counted on per system basis (unless something has changed recently) so the best way to increase sec status is to do a loop of systems, kill a BS rat in each of them, and move to the next one, repeat the whole loop every 15 minutes.
Also not all rats give you sec status increases from all mission rats, like the empire navies, drones, mercenaries, EOM and some missions don't give any sec status.