Missions & Complexes

Before Phoebe I experienced it to be quite random. I run relics with 30 strength but 120 coherence and explode about 1 out of 5 ruins ... didn't check after Phoebe yet.

Virus strength of 40 and restoration nodes are still annoying. My experience since Phoebe has been similar to before - some containers will have the restoration and suppression nodes, some won't. Pretty sure I saw 5 restoration nodes in a container last night, but wasn't really counting.

Don't know if you're seeing:

• More containers with restoration nodes
• More restoration nodes per container

Regardless, RNG is RNG. Since Phoebe, I have also navigated a container exposing only a single 50/40 firewall before locating the 90/10 system core.

Same here.. Now after Phoebe with 40 strength and 140 coherence I'm losing 1-2 cans in every second/third site, so I would say CCP definitely has increased defense :( Beside that, I used to get 30 mil in average from one relic site in null before Phoebe, now I'm getting only about 15-20 mil in average and I'm doing them every single day for at least 1-2h day..

Nice buff CCP..

For me the system core also spawns more random then before Phoebe.

It, almost always, used to be in the most opposite corner of the system, nowadays it can be everywhere.

Do you guys/girls also experience this?

I've hit a higher rate of restoration and suppressors too. That being said, I've had access to many, many more sites than previous so the increased chance of failure is appropriate.

The difficulty appears to have gone up slightly (I've had a few cans blow up, which hasn't happened in a long time), but the rewards have gone far down. While you state that nothing has changed about the mini-game, the loot tables are seriously screwed up. In one evening, I hit NINE nullsec sites, both data and relic, and flew away with a whopping 31 million ISK in loot. This pattern has continued, for the most part, with the exception of one relic site that was worth approximately 45 million - I'm averaging about 3.5 million per site in nullsec. Considering the time investment needed to travel around, find a site, scan it down, have it be a relic/data site, and run that site, you can probably belt mine in a Venture in any sec status, and make more ISK per hour.

This is not good. Prior to the latest release, I was able to earn a living running around nullsec dropping probes.

No longer can I do that.

I spend last 3 days in null hacking data/relics. Hacking is fine, i blown maybe 2 cans (for about 30 sites i guess). If you guys have problems with it try rigs/implants for coherence.

As for loot income from relics decreased (I'm not suprised, everybody are doing them), on the contrary data sites have some ISK in them (lowering the volume of datacores and decryptors helped). Generaly speaking hisec combat sites are way more profitable right now (to the point when market crash ofc).

Any uses of these:
High-Tech Data Chip
High-Tech Scanner
High-Tech Small Arms
High-Tech Manufacturing Tools

Anybody looted faction materials added in last patch? Seems quite rare, not a single so far.

Also there are more items at data sites in general, so maybe there's a chance to add some trade goods to the relic cans (those are colony ships after all, why they not contain some good to build colony, something like wheat, small arms, medicines etc., nothing that have real value but looks cool when you open can to see tobacco and spirits).

I would love to clear them for you and pay 10% as a thank you fee :)

But what does your friend mean by the "most difficult ones"? I don't have the names memorized yet, but there are those 1/20 band or 1.25% signal strenght ones mixed with others as far as I can see. I don't know if higher WH class s have more probablility of spawning such site than say C2-3, but I have seen various ones with various signal strength including those with the weakest 1.25% signature strength.

As for the hacking difficulty: I am just about to finish Archeology V, so I am still hacking relics with T1. I already have hacking V so I do datas with T2 analyzer. I have pulled gamelogs for one long sessions with such dead system run. I had 30% of failed attempts on Relics and about 10% on Datas. It doesnt mean that I blow up 1 of 3 relics, it means that some I blow up and some I have to do twice. I do not have reference point on nullsec sites, since I only joined EvE them recently, but they seem to be doable just fine. Sometimes I get really nasty hack where everything goes wrong, but other than that it seems fair-play to me.

Well, I made few trips to WH's yesterday and I guess your friend may be right about those nullsec data and relic. I have gone through the list of Null-Sec Signatures and from my experience so far I could only recall the first two or three bands.

But they may just be rare and do actually spawn sometimes in the w-space.

From my observation of these sites in w-space it looks like some systems seem to only have nullsec sites in it and other only sleeper. Sometimes its mixed, but mostly I find systems where all sites are either null or sleeper. I can also see pattern in where the sites are located in respect to celestials and solar system as such too.

I pulled 22 million from two sites just yesterday. I agree that relic sites are more lucrative, but 5 millions per site is probably just bad luck.