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Best solo + booster for FW areas
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Dissention Prime
Planet Poundtown
#1 - 2014-11-11 11:09:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Dissention Prime
As per the title I am looking to get the most bang for my buck with fighting in FW areas. I am wondering what the best solo frig/cruiser would be with a booster. Stipulation is that it would actually be able to get fights. I know a lot of people will just run from certain ships, or not even engage.

Also, would full snakes be viable to use in LS or has the insta-locking epidemic spread so much that pods get lost all the the time now?


Thanks in advance for any advice offered.


edit: Booster would be running a t3 with either armor/siege + info + skirmish @ t2 with faction implant.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-11-11 12:13:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Tipa Riot
The Worm is the best ship for that. Travelling long distances with an expensive pod through LowSec is completely save. You should place your booster alt inside the complex about 22km away from the capture beacon, cloak up and immediately switch back to the main, to not miss incoming traffic.

I'm my own NPC alt.
flaming phantom
Unlimited LTD
#3 - 2014-11-11 13:06:36 UTC
Good luck getting a fight in a worm. Any sensible person won't try to solo you. The only traffic you will see would be people who don't know what a worm is, or bait for a gang.

For solo WITH a booster, I think I would focus more on cruisers. The omen navy issue is good, Stabber fleet issue is pretty good. You will probably still get attempted blobs though. There are plenty of other ships, the trick is getting something engageable, and even the 2 cruiseers I jsut mentioed are just going to be blob targets.

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Domino Vyse
FeedingMachine
Good Sax
#4 - 2014-11-11 13:10:16 UTC
Pods are pretty safe in lowsec now actually
McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
#5 - 2014-11-11 15:34:03 UTC  |  Edited by: McChicken Combo HalfMayo
I've been getting lots of fights in a Retribution on my FW guy. Pretty beast ship. 16,5 buffer and 190 dips before adding boosts.

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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#6 - 2014-11-11 18:54:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Lloyd Roses
Smartest would be (regardless what those people say) a Garmur with snakes and a linkboat. Garmur then goes the better of 6km/s cold, points to 55km+ and shoots missiles at that range. Try to beat that in a solo FW scenario.

(It doesn't get fights, but it might easily have the highest win-loss ratio once you get one)
Dissention Prime
Planet Poundtown
#7 - 2014-11-11 20:25:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Dissention Prime
Lloyd Roses wrote:
Smartest would be (regardless what those people say) a Garmur with snakes and a linkboat. Garmur then goes the better of 6km/s cold, points to 55km+ and shoots missiles at that range. Try to beat that in a solo FW scenario.

(It doesn't get fights, but it might easily have the highest win-loss ratio once you get one)



I am specifically looking to get fights, not just fly around and be avoided the entire time.

edit: I guess I should emphasize that winning is not entirely the objective of this. I am looking to be able to get good fights, and win when I can. If cruisers is where I am going to be able to find decent fights at some suggestions would be welcome.
Fret Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-11-11 22:24:36 UTC
As someone else said the garmur.

No instalocking isnt a thing if u spam war far as pods gop. Smartbombing cruisers on gates are a thing though.

You will probably be bored of the garmur fast though as it is stupidly easy to fly with links/implants.
Dissention Prime
Planet Poundtown
#9 - 2014-11-11 22:49:53 UTC
Fret Thiesant wrote:


No instalocking isnt a thing if u spam war far as pods gop. Smartbombing cruisers on gates are a thing though.



You have 8 pod kills in lowsec so far in November... I believe you are giving biased advice on the pod situation.
Nalena Linova
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-11-12 03:01:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Nalena Linova
Unless you're incredibly unlucky with lag you won't lose a pod to an instalocker in lowsec provided you spam warp when you hit structure.

Smart bombing ships on gates are an issue however. If you plan to operate in Black Rise, add Santo Trafficante to your contact list and never warp gate to gate if he's in system. That should eliminate about 80% of your pod deaths.
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#11 - 2014-11-12 09:56:44 UTC
Dissention Prime wrote:
Lloyd Roses wrote:
Smartest would be (regardless what those people say) a Garmur with snakes and a linkboat. Garmur then goes the better of 6km/s cold, points to 55km+ and shoots missiles at that range. Try to beat that in a solo FW scenario.

(It doesn't get fights, but it might easily have the highest win-loss ratio once you get one)



I am specifically looking to get fights, not just fly around and be avoided the entire time.

edit: I guess I should emphasize that winning is not entirely the objective of this. I am looking to be able to get good fights, and win when I can. If cruisers is where I am going to be able to find decent fights at some suggestions would be welcome.


Since you want to focus on the quality of the fight rather than easy killmails I would suggest you to watch videos of other solo pvpers (both linked and unlinked). You will both get a good idea about how different ships perform and you will learn much about how to fly them.

Some examples on ship types could be:

Kiting:
Kovorix Omen Navy issue (nano omen with MAAR tank) with skirmish links + armour resist. (Performs perfectly fine without links)
Gila with skirmish links + shield resist
Rail Deimos with skirmish links + armour resist

Be careful when taking gateguns with these ships.

Brawling:
Dualrep Deimos with armour links + speed and/or tackle range link (Can also go without links but tanks like a boss with them)
Dualrep Vexor (or Vexor navy issue) with armour links + speed and/or tackle range link (Good brawler without links but they will allow you to tank 3 or more cruisers)

The ships I have listed are some of the cookie cutter solo ships and many people know that. You should be able to google them for more info and fits.

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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-11-12 13:26:19 UTC
Dissention Prime wrote:

edit: I guess I should emphasize that winning is not entirely the objective of this. I am looking to be able to get good fights, and win when I can.

... says the person who has to rely on off-grid boosts to trick people into "solo" fights.

I'm my own NPC alt.
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#13 - 2014-11-12 13:31:09 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
Dissention Prime wrote:

edit: I guess I should emphasize that winning is not entirely the objective of this. I am looking to be able to get good fights, and win when I can.

... says the person who has to rely on off-grid boosts to trick people into "solo" fights.


It's not about tricking people into honour 1v1 brawls. It¨s about going against multiple enemies and comming out on top.

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Ovv Topik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2014-11-12 14:41:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Ovv Topik
Dissention Prime wrote:


I am specifically looking to get fights, not just fly around and be avoided the entire time.

edit: I guess I should emphasize that winning is not entirely the objective of this.


This statement does not match up to your opening query at all. If you want to know the best ship to fly with links, then yes the Garmur and Worm would be the top 2.

But what you say you are looking for in the quote above, is the opposite of that "I care more about how my killboard looks to other people, than I do about how good I actually am" playstyle.

You sure as hell dont need links to win far more fights than you lose, and kill tonnes of stuff far bigger and blinger than you, and most importantly have a tonne of fun learning from your wins and losses.

So just choose one or the other. If you choose the latter, just start learning what fit beats what fit. Try fits like the triple neut Tris, or the TD Slasher to take on bigger targets.

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Tung Yoggi
University of Caille
#15 - 2014-11-12 15:05:33 UTC
The fact with offgrid booster is that you will be able to turn regular ships into something quite fierce.

As fights in "strong" ships are harder to get - worm, garmur, etc. (not mentioning the fact that you might get blobbed even more), i would suggest you fly apparently harmless, or at least common ships; and use the booster to enhance their capabilities.

So if i were you, i would invest in plain T1 frigates and cruisers, you will get more fights, until the day you get referred to as "that perma-linked baiting ******"; this very day when you'll have to move to another fw warzone, or just to 0.0.
Dissention Prime
Planet Poundtown
#16 - 2014-11-12 21:16:09 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
Dissention Prime wrote:

edit: I guess I should emphasize that winning is not entirely the objective of this. I am looking to be able to get good fights, and win when I can.

... says the person who has to rely on off-grid boosts to trick people into "solo" fights.



Don't be jealous that you are either unable to afford running more than one account to make a booster, or do not have enough isk to be able to purchase a booster.

I am simply using the every advantage I have available to me.
The Drunken Taoist
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-11-13 01:28:24 UTC
Dissention Prime wrote:
Tipa Riot wrote:
Dissention Prime wrote:

edit: I guess I should emphasize that winning is not entirely the objective of this. I am looking to be able to get good fights, and win when I can.

... says the person who has to rely on off-grid boosts to trick people into "solo" fights.



Don't be jealous that you are either unable to afford running more than one account to make a booster, or do not have enough isk to be able to purchase a booster.

I am simply using the every advantage I have available to me.


I personally don't have a problem with people using boosters if they are trying to fight out-manned/outgunned etc etc.

My view however is you shouldn't be claiming to be 'solo'. As most people I know who 'solo' with boosters are the biggest bunch of whiners and crybabies in eve.

If you want to fight outmatched then go for it just don't claim to be solo!. If you are looking for 'quality' fights then using every advantage you have available will actually diminish the quality as you will often outmatch your opponent who may be 'true solo'.

Using every advantage is for when you are trying to achieve a specific goal like capping a system, area denial or fulfilling a contract hit say.

My 2isk. Go get blown up!
Fret Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-11-13 09:02:47 UTC
Yea sorry if I misunderstood depends on your definintion. I figured you meant an "IWin" button. I prefer the algos solo, don't use links, and can take on small frig gangs. I lose a fair amount of them ofcourse.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-11-13 09:50:28 UTC
Dissention Prime wrote:

I am simply using the every advantage I have available to me.

Then be honest and say so from the beginning that it's all about winning fights. I have absolutely no problem with ganking.

I'm my own NPC alt.
Santo Trafficante
Kira Inc.
#20 - 2014-11-13 13:00:37 UTC
Dissention Prime wrote:
As per the title I am looking to get the most bang for my buck with fighting in FW areas. I am wondering what the best solo frig/cruiser would be with a booster. Stipulation is that it would actually be able to get fights. I know a lot of people will just run from certain ships, or not even engage.

Also, would full snakes be viable to use in LS or has the insta-locking epidemic spread so much that pods get lost all the the time now?


Thanks in advance for any advice offered.


edit: Booster would be running a t3 with either armor/siege + info + skirmish @ t2 with faction implant.


Can you give me ur PvP character name(the one you want to fly with sna....boosts), i want to send you some free isk.
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