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How are those even remotely readable?

well i thought it wasnt that bad at first, but then i updated and logged in sisi

i tried my hardest not to show how bad i felt about these UI changes,
now i'm undocked on sisi and this is just MAKING ME VOMIT, i mean WHAT the F***I CANT CONFIGURE THE UI COLORS ANYMORE ??? oh right, selections "presets..."
Jeebus i have seen stuff during the years and had to deal with it AS USUAL but this is not acceptable this is far worse than alot of things you guys did in the past. this time might be THE TIME where i say ok ccp that's one too much i am not taking that.
enjoy your WINDOWS 8 themed nerfed spaceships, i'll just sit this expansion out FOREVER.
if there is one thing i hate above all it's badly designed UI's and they are everywhere but this one, boy this one...
and you guys are paid to make that it's just incredible. i've seen government sites designed better than that, and boy these werent effective.
litle white corners on the windows ?? what is this some kind of grip in case it zips away ??
translucid neocom ??? no WAY
empty pixels between windows?
DAMIT even the darkest theme STILL Show the DAMN sun behind it WHAT THE HELL IS THIS
windows changing colors when i interact with them? is that part of the T rex mode ? cause THATS NOT HOW A HUNTER WORKS
in the military there is threats detection and camoflage tactics and this is the EXACT opposite!
changing the color, light and transparency when I CLICK them is a VIOLATION of HALF the rules used in threat detection and tracking / camoflage exercices.
Since Smell and noise are not part of the process in eve this is 80% of the rules of hunting and tracking broken.
I dont want to FOCUS on that window i want it to DO something for me not pretend it's a fashion item, changing the background implies time to readapt, refocus, making your nerves transmit the information and brain process it, crucial time you make us waste. for ... the sake of preetyness. i'm not taking that anymore.


guys better get something decent on the actual real server.

Hello. I would like to comment on the appearance of the new interface. Sorry for my english, but I just can not keep silent.

First of all, I would say, I believe that the interface should be pleasing to the eye and the aesthetic in the first place. And with what I see on the test server has some problems.

Let's start with the color of the icons on the panel Neocom. He is gray and white. It is not pleasant to read. It is not associated with the cosmos, is not associated with science and space ships. This color is associated with sadness, longing and mud.

Perhaps the icon lacks luster, brightness and gloss? White and silver color would suit perfectly. I am not a designer and can not draw, but as an example I can give you some icons from the graphical environment KDE4: http://itmages.ru/image/view/2040077/29b861c6

Extend. Directly icons themselves do not bear the full association of what they mean. And this is the problem. We have to get used to new characters and need the best images for understanding.

"People & Places" - painted book. The book is not associated with a notebook. The book is associated with study, with the acquisition of new skills. Here is a database of contacts: http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9169/981986.3b/0_86579_e72c5f94_orig

"Regional Market" - column (columns) associated with the statistics, diagrams and mathematics. And only. Price growth is usually drawn columns (columns) with curved arrows. Took the first picture of the search engine that you understand what I mean: http://im2-tub-ru.yandex.net/i?id=f71d7830665ac2b2c0f2c4300bc2cb0e-102-144&n=21

"Corporation" - the star? Star symbol commonly associated with the fleet and fighting. How to understand that a star - a corporation. Corporation, anyway - is a set of people. So maybe it's worth to draw the icon several bodies? http://xvatit.com/upload/medialibrary/bc6/bc630e5df9afa13e377328e44c873f6c.jpg

"Wallet" - Z? What is Z? How should I understand that it contacts to isk's? Maybe better to draw a handful of coins? Or a stack of coins.

"Journal" - it's a notebook or book contacts. This was to be "People & Places"

"NES" - stands out strongly from the general concept.

Extend.
I want a blue theme for windows. But all the blue theme windows - too dark. I see them. That's why you need to give people the opportunity to choose their convenient color and brightness.

Same thing with smooth blur effect in windows - it is not pleasant to the eyes of some people - it has to be customized or disabled. Same thing with transparency.

Corners of windows merge with the environment as a result of defective window seems like it nibbled mouse. It is not pleasant to read.

Thank you. And excuse me for using google translate =)

Irony, isn't it?

it's cool Leo. he's an old corp mate and we never talked much. they knew me back when I was just 3 chars.

Looks good.
Another question: is there any possibility/plans to implement colour management? I am using wide gamut monitor?

Kind regards.

Can the pin icon change depending on whether or not something is pinned? Take the dot out of the center of the icon when it is not pinned? Might seem silly but sometimes I have a hard time telling if a window is pinned or not now, due to high transparency in both modes, possible extreme background contrasts from the nebula throwing things off, t-rex vision, etc...

I think the tabs and buttons on UI elements should adapt to the background just like the rest of the window does. Right now the inactive tabs stand out too much on bright backgrounds, and the buttons on the probe scan window stand out too much on dark backgrounds. So no matter where you are looking the UI has some ugliness and visual noise due to these scattered non-responsive elements.

I think the new UI Looks pretty awesome; But I agree that the Icons could be a bit better (to not feel like the new windows 10 that is going to be so bad, they skipped windows 9).

Also, PLEASE dull down the Overview Tab Bars. The Center color highlight makes text almost unreadable

Examples:
http://gyazo.com/535981e189ceba77119a7f4d0c48bea9
http://gyazo.com/b9353d17cf6f0b7599189e8040a38f03

Finally having returned from my trip and able to check this out, I'd like to provide some feedback of my own.

This is an interesting change and a good step forward technologically. Some of the execution is a little odd, and some of my use cases get slightly crimped.

My first impression: This looks pretty much fine, but the bright-center gradients on highlighted UI tabs are kinda awful. It should not be most difficult to read the active UI element, but that's how it is right now; lowest contrast right there in the middle. Not a big fan of the bright-center gradient styling either, even if you choose to go for dark-on-light for the text.

More important things to note:

I generally maintain a number of windows on the screen that overlap with each other. On TQ, most of them are pinned for maximum transparency so I can see targets and enemy brackets coming at me and that area of the screen isn't totally lost. With the new system, you can see models and space objects just fine behind a mostly-transparent window like a pinned overview, but while text, targeting reticles, and brackets are not blurred behind windows, they fade to near-invisibility when behind even the palest of empty window spaces. If I look really closely I can see that they aren't actually erased or blurred but I cannot see them at all. This is also true for text and (more importantly) icon UI elements, such as the standings/status icons of members of local chat.

In short, if I want to get any useful UI window information behind any pinned window like drones, overview, or any window even incidentally overlapping the Local list, I am completely out of luck.

To me, my tuning of EVE's UI to my needs has been a careful process of refining the most necessary information to spaces on the screen that are always, always visible, and to leaving as much view of space open as possible while still having critical windows such as overview, d-scan, fleet, drones, local, and people & places quickly accessible. Rendering every element of underlying windows invisible (no matter how important), as well as brackets in space, looks like a significant step backwards to me in the usability department.

In short... faded text behind windows: yes! great! this means everything is always much more readable and I love it.

Faded icons, brackets, and non-text informational UI elements behind windows? No! They don't make it any harder for me to read foreground text, but they are completely obscured by the most unobtrusive windows now and it's cramping my style.

No like :
-No color on icon
-Transparency i can already choose to have but will be force to use
- No neocom on top/bottom
- No more customisable tab on overview ( editing the .xml)

Like :
New icons, too bad they dont have colors