EVE General Discussion

The most sensible items to trade initially might work out to be small volume, high value items. If you consider the types of players who have access to faction/officer drops and WH goodies, Thera doesn't really present all that much of an obstacle for people used to navigating tricky space. With enough ISK, you could force that type of market into being.

People have been mentioning the old freighter convoys with nostalgia for a while, but it simply wasn't viable with pre-Phoebe capital ranges/proliferation. But I suspect long term, people will try the convoy routes again. Also, consider boosters - which are a pain to buy AND sell (and were slated for a massive overhaul a while back, which was put on the back burner for a bit). It's possible booster production will centre around Thera. All it takes is a handful of traders to start a venture there with moderate investment, and it'll have ripple effects on the tertiary hubs. Officer mods in particular aren't in massive supply (although would require a fair chunk to corner).

It's an interesting experiment, really looking forward to it. In a way it tests the concept of spacetravel without gates as well as local removal. And it pokes at the players to see just how much risk they are prepared to take - I'll be really curious to see how many new players try get to Thera, and how long it takes them to try. If there are NPC stations I suspect there will be a mad rush to sneak people in, to open offices and deathclone alts across. It might be worth allowing unlimited office opening initially just to get people in there poking about.

Also, and I hate to say it, but it's only a matter of time before someone creates a WH/sig mapping app for the entire game that is publically available. ATM they are used by closed groups for internal affairs, but I can see some enterprising soul creating a subscription based version which is rapidly made free.

Absolutely. I think that all of these question marks are a big reason that you won't see many (if any) organized groups making plans for it just yet. I would assume that more details will be divulged as we get closer to the release. If that ends up not being the case though, the only "mad rush" into that system that I expect to see, is a bunch of CovOps and cloaky/nullified T3s poking around in there for the first week or two.

Or like Siggy, or any other player made app. All of which are being developed internally (and probably better by well-resourced blocs) but my point is... actually, I'm not going to bother explaining it. Work it out.

Precisely. If the size of the system is anything like what I am imagining, a scanner nerd who knows how to short warp could easily spend a few days amusing him/herself just making tacticals, safes, and a few navigation routes through it.

QFT.

I have often been called, diplomatically, risk averse. Undiplomatically much worse :)

The problem is that if you choose to play this game for its economy, then you have to play FOR ITS ECONOMY. This means that you need to make smart economic decisions.

Part of that decision is that increase risk means increased reward and since part of that increased risk is to be the plaything of actual people it had damn well better be SIGNIFICANTLY increased reward! I am not going to let some guy blow me up and giggle with glee at my expense so that I can make a measly 20% more per unit of time.

The reason I tend to be risk averse is that not only is there NOT increased reward for increased risk, many times there is a decrease in reward due to losses, losing time to running away/being camped etc etc etc. To say I should do that for 'content' reasons is silly...I am roleplaying a tough-economic minded toon and that toon would NOT do such a thing. To ask her to is basically asking this toon to not be played.

I will definitely be there and taking huge risks *IF* the rewards are worth it. If not, forget it. Based on prior history with the devs in this game...the rewards probably won't even match hisec missioning after factoring in losses in time and material, let alone to make it worth my while to provide content to gankers. However, if the rewards are there...I will be providing plenty of targets for people to catch/blow up.

I get what you're saying, but how will you know if the rewards are worth it? Thera not being worth it in this case simply becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.


Being completely risk averse does not lead to the best business decisions. Informed risk isn't what you are describing here.

I see it as a lawless way stations for wormholers.

Depending on the non static connections and how many it could be a decent stop over for wh groups to sell and buy various gases and equipment they need without having to hope that the exits lead to stuff that's needed.

It could also become a hell hole that is perma camped by one group or another, or a good war zone.

Honestly, it would be nice to be a kinda free port, where no one stakes a claim and the market gets good put into it, and the people who pass through police it themselves... but I am sure a wh group will be claming it and going nbsi really quickly after launch.

I will visit it, and as has been said, most likely pop. lol

It's not hisec. 'nuff said.

Nobody 'lives' in Jita except maybe Alts.

Thera will be Arena PvP until the node crashes with 600 interceptors on a bubble infested wormhole.

I'm not saying don't do it. I, like others just see the direction it will take because certain player groups in EVE are all about the I-win button.

Well, Thera has one incentive for people to live there that Jita will never have... an unending supply of unsuspecting targets right on the other side of the wormholes that open and close constantly.

If nothing else it is the ideal base of operations for a group that enjoys pirating and raiding.