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Greetings New Eden

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Ithiria Deritan
TxivYawg
#1 - 2014-11-11 18:02:44 UTC
Greetings Fellow Capsuleers;

It is with a heavy Heart that I am posting this, but it is something that needs to be done.

The other Day my Daughter Jaina Deritan was caught with certain restricted items in a Concord station's establishment. This establishment belongs to a friend of mine. Due to the Events that followed her being caught and the fact everyone knows I hate Said restricted items. I am announcing this publicly so there can be no confusion.

As of today at 1800 hours Jaina Deritan is hereby stripped of any titles, holdings, and family connections to the Deritan Family. She is hereby Disowned and while I can not legally strip the family name from her, the Deritan family will have nothing to do with her from now on.


Holder and Deritan Matriarch
Ithiria Deritan
Ava Starfire
Khushakor Clan
#2 - 2014-11-11 18:04:42 UTC
Sometimes, "sorry" doesnt cut it, yeah.

"There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception." -Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North"

Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-11-11 18:08:36 UTC
Lady Deritan,

Don't you think it is a bit severe punishment for just restricted items?.. They are just items, after all, and, probably, prayers and physical punishment will take better effect than such...

They were just items, it was just CONCORD station, not Empire or Kingdom one, and she is your daughter...

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#4 - 2014-11-11 18:11:30 UTC
Having no knowledge of what transpired, all I can say is this:

'An individual is above man-made laws until he commits a crime against man-made conventions; After that he is neither above anyone nor lower than anyone.'

Do as you will. Just know that what is done will always reflect on you, for better or worse. Apologies are just breath.

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Karynn Denton
Lekhantsi Salvage Depot
#5 - 2014-11-11 18:15:22 UTC
It's a shame she got caught, otherwise I might have had some use for her.

Poor girl.

Karynn Denton

Caravan Master

Jvpiter
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-11-11 18:31:02 UTC


Capsuleers routinely circumvent and steal from the establishment, since the establishment itself holds no meaning. Judge your daughter by standards fit for an immortal.


What are you going to do when she butchers a ship with a thousand souls in it, or burns down a station with cannon fire?

Call me Joe.

Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#7 - 2014-11-11 18:49:06 UTC
harsh deal for a bit of contraban....

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.

Jaina Deritan
Doomheim
#8 - 2014-11-11 19:02:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaina Deritan
Capsuleers, I am the daughter in question and its clear my Mother was misinformed. Yes I found a packet in the Ladies toilets, but it was in my procession for less then a hour, I am a member of the military and I authorize anyone to check the test results of all my clones, and they will see that other then the combat enhancing boosters, I have not touched Drugs in over a year.

Yes I should of left them where they was, and yes technically I did take them inside the club and have apologized to the owner for this.

But as people Have said I do not think this is cause for disownement, and Am in conversation with my mother about a alternative.
Jvpiter
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-11-11 19:08:53 UTC


Combat enhancing boosters in a nightclub? Were you about to run into a hostile flash dance mob?

Call me Joe.

Ithiria Deritan
TxivYawg
#10 - 2014-11-11 19:13:31 UTC
That statement Does not help Jaina, nothing in there shows remorse, and since Luna there said other punishment, I was willing to give you the chance to show remorse, you have not. the disownment stands.
Jaina Deritan
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-11-11 19:31:29 UTC
*a text message appears; It Seems this is the only way I can prove I'm remorseful- Jaina Deritan. It then fades into a video*

Jaina Kneels in the middle of a room, someone is moving away off camera, Jaina has a tantō in her hands, she sighs then says “Mother I'm sorry” before plunging the blade into her chest, she doesn't cry out but its clear shes still alive at the moment the feed cuts out time-stamp 19;13
Keta Lindur
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#12 - 2014-11-11 19:35:34 UTC
Jvpiter wrote:


Combat enhancing boosters in a nightclub? Were you about to run into a hostile flash dance mob?


The Golden Masque is a restaurant and event hall, not a nightclub, and on the date in question it was hosting a tasting for wines and spirits, at the request of Mrs. Lunarisse Aspenstar-Daphiti.

The Golden Masque is also located a short distance outside of the capsuleer-restricted portions of the CONCORD Bureau station in orbit of Yulai IX, which gives the entirety of station personnel and residents access to it. As such, it is therefore bound by the rules and regulations set forth by the station's owning body before any of its own are applied.

This would include rules against the possession of illegal contraband, including drugs such as Crash, Drop, Mindflood, Nerve Sticks, or X-Instinct, to name a few examples.

Ms. Deritan was noted by security staff monitoring the establishment to be in possession of one of these illicit substances when she attempted to give it to another patron. The proprietor was notified, and security was asked to confiscate the substance to turn it over to station authorities.

A disagreement subsequently occurred, and a third party escalated the situation after the proprietor asked - and then insisted - that Ms. Deritan and the third party (who was attempting to take the credit for bringing the substance into the Masque, as much a violation as Ms. Deritan's subsequent possession of it, if it were true - which security recordings have given no indication to be the case) to leave the premises under their own power or be forcibly removed. Both refused, and the third party attempted to attack the proprietor; the attack was prevented by the Masque's automated security fields, and both Ms. Deritan and the proprietor's attacker were removed.

Both Ms. Deritan and her would-be defender have been blacklisted from entry to the Golden Masque for an indefinite period of time.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#13 - 2014-11-11 19:37:39 UTC
Jaina Deritan wrote:
Jaina Kneels in the middle of a room, someone is moving away off camera, Jaina has a tantō in her hands, she sighs then says “Mother I'm sorry” before plunging the blade into her chest, she doesn't cry out but its clear shes still alive at the moment the feed cuts out time-stamp 19;13


Hopefully her pilot's license is revoked, so she doesn't come back in a clone.

Katrina Oniseki

Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#14 - 2014-11-11 19:40:42 UTC
I was going to suggest that all involved are idiots.

Apparently I grossly underestimated.

She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.

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Liam Antolliere
Doomheim
#15 - 2014-11-11 19:47:22 UTC
Lady Deritan and (presumably late) daughter,

Did such business need to be broadcast to the public? I (somewhat) understand the desire to detach oneself from potential detriment to one's house and family by a wayward member of said family, but the conversation should have ceased at that point.

While clearly the Lady Deritan could not control the responses of her daughter to this announcement, the continuation of the conversation in public such is it was, could have been completely avoided.

Far be it from me to state outright that this was a ploy for attention but I have trouble seeing what other purpose this family drama could have served being broadcast in such a manner.

"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."

Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#16 - 2014-11-11 19:56:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Lunarisse Aspenstar
Such a public airing of internal family grievances, over a petty and unadjudicated drug offense is troubling to me. It strikes me as indelicate and unnecessarily risking the further sullying of the family name. Far better to have the "chat" in private and banish the near-do-well (if established) to the shadows to protect the family name rather shine the light of public scrunity on it and cause further tarnish. Likewise, the act of... I am not sure what the word is... self-immolation is needlessly public.

It is not like this dispute concerns one of the parties being a closet Sani Sabik or Blooder after all. Now that would be cause for severe public disapprobation!
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#17 - 2014-11-11 20:08:30 UTC
Closet my firm behind. It's the worst kept secret in New Eden that my dearest estranged wife is a blooder. I wear the marks I do for a reason, until either the mountain crumbles or... well, resolutions are found.
Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#18 - 2014-11-11 20:27:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Lunarisse Aspenstar
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Closet my firm behind. It's the worst kept secret in New Eden that my dearest estranged wife is a blooder. I wear the marks I do for a reason, until either the mountain crumbles or... well, resolutions are found.


Ms. Del-thul, the Holder Ithiria Deritan was married to you? I do not know what I find harder to believe, that a Holder would be married to known terrorist or that she is a closet Sani Sabik. Both are shocking to me - being unfamiliar with House Deritan - but I assume you would not make such an allegation, especially as to marriage if it could not be substantiated. If actually proven, I think perhaps the disowning and self-immolation set forth in this thread has the actors and roles exactly backward. In a more formal sense, has the latter allegation of Lady Deritan being a closet sani sabik been referred to the Theology Council for investigation?
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#19 - 2014-11-11 20:38:08 UTC
There's a lot of... convoluted history involved. A few interesting sidesteps on various paths, some interesting discoveries, a few betrayals here and there. None of it really belongs in public, but yes. I do have recordings that substantiates every claim I make. Of course, given the technology available to capsuleers, it's pretty much impossible to prove it isn't forged.

It is, however, more than enough to show that "Holders" are raised no higher than anyone else when it comes to hiding vileness behind public masks.
Keta Lindur
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#20 - 2014-11-11 20:49:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Keta Lindur
Lunarisse Aspenstar wrote:
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Closet my firm behind. It's the worst kept secret in New Eden that my dearest estranged wife is a blooder. I wear the marks I do for a reason, until either the mountain crumbles or... well, resolutions are found.


Ms. Del-thul, the Holder Ithiria Deritan was married to you? I do not know what I harder to believe, that a Holder would be married to known terrorist or that she is a closet Sani Sabik. Both are shocking to me - being unfamiliar with House Deritan - but I assume you would not make such an allegation, especially as to marriage if it could not be substantiated. If so, I think perhaps the disowning and self-immolation set forth in this thread has the actors and roles exactly backward. In a more formal sense, has this matter been referred to the Theology Council?


Details surrounding the incident in question were forwarded to (Lady?) Ithiria Deritan in response to her request, made to the proprietor approximately twenty-four hours after the incident. As far as the Golden Masque is concerned, the indefinite barring of entry of both Ms. Jaina Deritan and her intended saviour, was sufficient consequence, and officially we have no further comment or opinion on the matter of her mother's decision to mete out additional consequences or punishments, and consider the matter closed. No further requests were made of us, nor were any additional reports were filed on our part, save the requisite paperwork for turning over the illicit substance to station authorities. Should our records be required for any further investigations on the part of the Theology Council or any other law enforcement entity, we will comply and assist in good faith as required under the law.

We would, however, like to note that any displays of histrionics and their subsequent consequences as pertain to the announcement in the first post of this thread, are neither our responsibility nor our concern.
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