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Some help for a FW newb please..
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Zilzin Intak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-11-07 19:49:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Zilzin Intak
Hello,

I would like to get into FW after carebearing for a while. Now I have been googling a bit and checking around, but I cant seem to find what are good fittings to start with in FW missions. Since that's where I would like to start.

I prefer to run in Amarr or Minmatar FW. Also I am skilled mainly in Gallente, Minmatar ships, armor tank, drone skills. (still pretty low SP char, 7M)

I dont really know where to start, I was thinking like lvl2 FW missions, just to get a feel and work my way up from there (I already do normal lvl4's).


So my main question would be: Where can I find good fittings for a Gallente/Minmatar frigate/cruiser to fight against Minmatar or Amarr in FW missions or "plexing" ?

Any extra tips/advices would be very welcome :)
Evora Pirkibo
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-11-07 21:04:34 UTC
Many choose to mission in bombers, but i would recommend running around in a frigate. Try out the tristan or atron, both are sturdy ships. Low level missions are easy to blitz and you'll also have the capability to fight when you feel like it or have to.

When people get to level 4's i see alot of ishtars VNI's caracals tengus and bombers running them.

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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#3 - 2014-11-07 21:14:16 UTC
lvl1-2 fw missions can be done in a destroyer i think. lvl3-4 in cruiser or SB. But keep in mind that missions are only a tiny aspect of FW.

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Ovv Topik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2014-11-07 21:28:21 UTC
For FW missions and Plexing you use different fits.

Plexing is done in a PvP fit. You need to be doing 150dps for a nov plex. 200 for a small, 250 for a med.

Unless you just do defensive plexing, and plan on running from a fight.

Are you interested in PvP?

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Ovv Topik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-11-07 21:31:25 UTC
http://www.gamerchick.net/2013/01/the-beginners-guide-to-faction-war.html

Outdated now, but still the most concise overview.

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Trey Kutoi
SergalJerk
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#6 - 2014-11-10 06:10:09 UTC
Ovv Topik wrote:
For FW missions and Plexing you use different fits.

Plexing is done in a PvP fit. You need to be doing 150dps for a nov plex. 200 for a small, 250 for a med.

Unless you just do defensive plexing, and plan on running from a fight.

Are you interested in PvP?



so basically you're saying that missile ships can't be used to plex? I'm still skirting the 120ish dps range with T2 rockets.
Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-11-11 08:05:23 UTC
Minmatar has by far the easiest mission.

Therefore often called farmatar.

They are currently taking a heavy beating so your tier will be ****.

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Ovv Topik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-11-12 14:49:13 UTC
Trey Kutoi wrote:
Ovv Topik wrote:
For FW missions and Plexing you use different fits.

Plexing is done in a PvP fit. You need to be doing 150dps for a nov plex. 200 for a small, 250 for a med.

Unless you just do defensive plexing, and plan on running from a fight.

Are you interested in PvP?



so basically you're saying that missile ships can't be used to plex? I'm still skirting the 120ish dps range with T2 rockets.

Well those figures are for offensive plexing. Obviously for defensive, you need no dps at all.

If you go lower than those figures you'll find killing the active tanked respawning rats mean it takes you double the amount of time to finish each timer.

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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-11-13 11:53:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Tipa Riot
Luwc wrote:
Minmatar has by far the easiest mission.

Therefore often called farmatar.

They are currently taking a heavy beating so your tier will be ****.

I see a lot of people running FW missions for Amarr in conquered Minmatar space lately using Hounds.

EDIT: Watch your d-scan and don't warp at zero to mission gates.

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Materia Stone
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Wild Geese.
#10 - 2014-11-16 00:04:31 UTC
You will make a lot more Isk running defensive plexes than level 1-2 missions... Just FYI.... Your also helping the war effort as well then. ;)

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Veronica Isagar
Black Fox Marauders
Pen Is Out
#11 - 2014-11-21 15:51:49 UTC
When running missions, keep in mind, at what Tier you are in, higher the Tier, better the Mission Payout.

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Nevil Oscillator
#12 - 2014-11-22 11:00:04 UTC
Trey Kutoi wrote:
Ovv Topik wrote:
For FW missions and Plexing you use different fits.

Plexing is done in a PvP fit. You need to be doing 150dps for a nov plex. 200 for a small, 250 for a med.

Unless you just do defensive plexing, and plan on running from a fight.

Are you interested in PvP?



so basically you're saying that missile ships can't be used to plex? I'm still skirting the 120ish dps range with T2 rockets.



Missiles have their uses, every statistic for the different weapons does mean something, it's not just DPS.
The Drunken Taoist
Doomheim
#13 - 2014-11-25 23:17:41 UTC
Ovv Topik wrote:
Trey Kutoi wrote:
Ovv Topik wrote:
For FW missions and Plexing you use different fits.

Plexing is done in a PvP fit. You need to be doing 150dps for a nov plex. 200 for a small, 250 for a med.

Unless you just do defensive plexing, and plan on running from a fight.

Are you interested in PvP?



so basically you're saying that missile ships can't be used to plex? I'm still skirting the 120ish dps range with T2 rockets.

Well those figures are for offensive plexing. Obviously for defensive, you need no dps at all.

If you go lower than those figures you'll find killing the active tanked respawning rats mean it takes you double the amount of time to finish each timer.


I do 60dps with a basic kestrel and it take maybe an extra 5 mins to complete a novice plex with this toon.

Please don't tell low sp players that they need to have much higher skill/dps. They can still go out there and have fun/plex/pvp.

And lets face it new players have a high enough challenge as it is without being told you need at least this amount of anything as it just puts a lot of people off. I often tell people that if they are only interested in doing something in eve to the max efficiency then they will get fed up very quickly and just to relax and just get out there and fight.

Also find a good corp to fly with as they will help more than 90% of the forum posts. Even if you want to solo all the time.
Baron' Soontir Fel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-11-26 16:35:23 UTC
Yeah you can easily do plexes with a rocket Kestrel, Breacher, or Condor. those are around 100dps frigates if you t1 fit them.
Carlatto
False Profits
#15 - 2014-12-03 16:53:03 UTC
If running plexes use a cheap t1 frig until you get better skills. If you're looking to run fw missions I'd recommend a bomber. Accept more then 1 misson at a time. I would suggest 4 or 5 to start with. Once you get better and understand the blitz mechanic of it you can accept 8 or more. The reason why you want to accept so many at once is the fact that they can be quite far away in enemy territory. Always keep eyes on local and dscan.