EVE General Discussion

Not sure if this goes here but for now it's here.

So I was recently introduced to nullsec. I have been playing off and on since around 2007, major breaks in between. I have little experience with the game. I've always done high sec, mining/pve. I know 0 about pvp. The guys I fly with now all say the best way to get into pvp is to just do it. But I find it's alot more complicated than that.

I am only familiar with amarr ships. And pve fits at that. I am at a loss as I am very worried I won't be able to learn pvp and it will reflect on me and those around me. I don't want to feel like I'm a weak link in something that is clearly a major part of the game. There has to be an easier way to learn pvp than that. or if not easier a better way to learn. It took me quite awhile to get the hang of pve, as I am a slow learner and have trouble assimilating information. I'm not entirely sure what to do on this and I want to enjoy pvp but I just don't know if i'm cut out for it. If I'm not do I really have a place in eve?

I am bad at PVP because I don't enjoy it very much. However, I have done some PVP and I can say that it is like anything else -especially in this game- the more you do the better you will be. The first thing you have to remember is that you are going to explode, probably a lot. Secondly, you have to take each loss as a learning experience and try to look back and ask yourself what you did wrong and how you can improve next time. Lastly, soloing is very difficult so find a group that knows you are still new to PVP and fly with them.

Good luck and don't be afraid to lose a ship.

Well one of the problems is, I ask for fits sometimes they can give times they say I need to learn it on my own. I don't mind roaming fleets but solo pvp is a different beast altogether. They say fit a frig go die. I don't know what to put on a frig. Where do I fly these types of things.

Never not pvp.

Your friends are correct. The best way to become familiar with ships and fits is to get in and fight against them. Even as an older player, if you are new to pvp it's worth jumping in some cheap frI gates and going and blowing up a lot. You'll learn a lot as a player about decision making in a fight and develop your own style faster the more you fight.

Establish a good PVP environment for yourself.

good place to deploy from with loads of assets.

Then it won't matter if you die. Unless you have no ISK.

well I kinda suck at making isk :P. I do have ships to do like combat sites in null which net me about 20-40m an hour or so. But those sites tend to get boring fast, specially alone, and I can only do 2 maybe 3? I then end up using all that on pvp ships and losing them is a bit of a problem. Although these are a bit bigger ships than frigs. Even if it was frigs putting t2 mods on is costly and I don't know if there is a benefit putting t1 mods on a ship to save cost and learn pvp. If i'm constantly being blown up am I truly learning anything if I am not using proper mods?

these corp. (like my corp.) accepts and train newbies on how to pvp (like me) according to the goal of that particular corp.

for example, my corp. is in FW figting for Gallente and is heavily inclined to fleet fights defending/capturing (com)plexes in FW space. so based on experience, one of the few thing they taught/trained me is how to scout like what information i need to inform the FC, correct terms to use and how to use D-SCAN (the 3rd party web app). then after scouting, the combat positioning, where and when to attack/pounce. you'll also discover what type of ships you want to fly like if you like scouting/tackling, EWAR or combat. the advantage and disadvantages of the vast ships in eve, the what to use against what.

most good corps. have their own doctrine ships they fly, now, this can have a plus and negative side. the negative is, since you will be flying mostly those ships, it can restrict your flying style. a style that you may or may not like, but that is only at the beginning as you master flying your own ships from there you can start trying out other ships, atleast from learning your doctrine you'll have an idea on how the other ships behave and from there you just need to experience it and improve. on the other hand the advantage of having doctrine is for the skill training, to avoid your skill to be all over the place, to have a goal. in times of war, esp. in FW wherein mostly is a war of attrition, reshipping is critical, having a doctrine will make your reshipping very fast and efficient.

other things my corp. taught me are the basic/simple things that in reality are very important, like how gate/station guns behave, manual flying, warping to accel. gates, the use of tactical bookmarks and fleet discipline.

tldr: pvp corps that trains newbros (like me) is highly recommended, i learned alot of things from them.

For fits, look at the killboards. those can give you a pretty good idea of how to fit something.

Going into faction war is a good place to start imo. You can fly cheap, there's always action to be had, and more often than not there are fleets to join in on. Just like everyone else has said though, you WILL die from time to time. Watch and learn from others and your own fights. Learn from your mistakes and your successes. There are many who will share fits with you and help you get on your way to PvP success. PvP can be tough...but there's nothing like that adrenaline rush you get in a fight...kind of like being on a roller coaster. In time you will learn to control the urge to have a heart attack and function smoothly without the PvP panic a lot of players new to PvP experience. I'll say the same thing you've heard a million times...get out there and do it. Once you get the PvP bug...you won't go back