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Arson Gundarso
Malfury Syndicate
#1 - 2011-09-13 06:07:20 UTC
I am have been playing eve for a long time. I've done alot of PVP and various non-care bear endevours, but due to recent changes with my work schedule, its pretty hard to do those things anymore. so I am thinking about trying my hand at running an industrial, isk focused corp.

However there is one part of an industrial corp that i have yet to figure out completely. And that is how you make it secure against thieves, a-holes and various varmints of eve. I been around the block a few times, and actually sluethed out a few corp thieves while in previous corps ( and killed them ) before a theft actually occurred, but i'm curious what strategies you successful corps have engaged in to keep the baddies out, especially during the critical growth stages of your corp, those first few weeks when your putting together your loyal core.
xanderh
Red Viking Conglomerate
#2 - 2011-09-13 06:52:23 UTC
Get personal with the members, it makes them less likely to steal from you. And trust no one, except when you know people so well that you know everything they're going to do. Also, take all the valuable stuff out of the corp hangar and leave a few things and some money for them to take. Then give them rights to take from it, and tell them you'll be gone for a while. If there's any thieves, this is likely to be when they'll steal from you. And again; do NOT EVER trust any of your members, until you've known them for a long time. I''ve got a friend through EVE, he's a director of my corp now, but even now I'm not fully and completely trusting him. He have proven to be very valuable though.
Barbie D0ll
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2011-09-13 07:07:24 UTC
to answer your question, only trust people in eve you can punch in the face, Eve is all about the backstabbing anonymity and ANYONE can get away with anything as long as they have disposable alts, except if you know them in RL, then it gets personal and thus, outside the "backstabbing anonymity" and "assholeism" religion that eve is all about
Eddard Varbosa
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2011-09-13 07:18:37 UTC
Barbie D0ll wrote:
only trust people in eve you can punch in the face

Lol, funny but true Big smile
Arson Gundarso
Malfury Syndicate
#5 - 2011-09-13 12:26:46 UTC
Thanks for the tips.

The current security set up i'm thinking about is not even having a corp wallet, just running it out of my personal wallet, and keeping tight control of all blueprints, ect. Controlling everything through rolls, and no one except me has take access. I want to have a public hanger for members to use, but i'm so afraid of abuse, misuse, and crap disappearing its almost not even worth the trouble.

That and having a bad-ass combat toon on standby for blowing up thieves when i figure them out should keep me nice and secure.
Eddard Varbosa
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2011-09-13 12:33:20 UTC
No, use the corp wallet, just make sure only you have access to it. You can also have a public hangar and make it read only. My corporation can put whatever they want in there, but if they need anything they drop me a message and I get it for them.
Xearal
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#7 - 2011-09-13 19:23:15 UTC
we use a corp hangar in the HQ which only has read access, that's where we store our most treasured stuff, our BPO collection.
And for extra security, we have them all on lockdown too.

Keep the expensive stuff in the HQ, as it has different access rights than regular offices.
and use an office for the stuff you don't mind losing and for general corporate use.

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Emma Royd
Maddled Gommerils
#8 - 2011-09-17 07:02:53 UTC
Read the guides on roles etc, see what grants access to what.

Before you let anyone in your corp, put an alt in there and practise setting roles, make sure the titles you use do the correct things, and don't give access to the wrong things.

Don't give any shares away

Lock all your bpo's

have a members hangar where stuff you don't mind getting stolen can go, things like T1 mods, ammo, mining crystals etc, then have seperate hangars for more valuable stuff.

Even when it's all set up, and you've got your closest rl friend in the corp, if you want to give a director role out, remember they can take everything, it won't be the first time a bestest real life friend has got greedy and taken everything, so keep your most valuable assets if you have very expensive bpo's etc, in your personal hangar.
beor oranes
Tranquility Tavern
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2011-09-18 08:35:21 UTC
Don't even lock your BPO's in your corp hanger, have them in your personal hanger and just make copies for those who want them. It might take an extra day or so but its worth it as then you don't lose any.

Have two hangers that all the corp members can see; one is the common one with cheap stuff in and a second where they can see but cant take. Anything they want to give you they can drop in that one.

Use contracts a lot.

There's lots of other things to do that will make it 'safer' and more 'secure' but to be honest its only as secure as your paranoia. The more paranoid you are the safer and more secure it is.

I would say one last thing, have one other person in corp you trust with everything (a RL mate or something) as without a second person you will get burnt out with the requests from noob members and they can shoulder some of the responsibility.
Brock Nelson
#10 - 2011-09-18 15:38:14 UTC
Your biggest problem is the Factory Manager Role. If you're going to be running a industrial corp that allows access to blueprints, it's a sure bet that people will be doing research, copying or manufacturing with it. Factory Manager role is a must have for anyone to be able to use it in any manner and the downside of it is that with that role, anyone can cancel any job. For research job, it's no big deal but for manufacturing, it means materials are lost.

So until CCP fixes that particular role, you're dead in water unless you've got the trust thing figured out.

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