Player Features and Ideas Discussion

That is only a problem for people with a very limited number of titans -- a category, you and others don't fall under.

W2B a t2 version with a jumpdrive to replace my suitcase carrier

kthxbai

I suppose, in your world, you cannot bubble stations, or drag off of POS? Hint: drag bubbles work at any distance and grids can be shaped to be hundreds, if not thousands of kilometers long, well outside of the range of any POS gun. Even if the aggressor is scouted and is unable to catch the bowheads, travel is still disrupted until the aggressor is punished.


This contrived, impractical vignette is not worth the cost of the causal use of these ships outside of your vignette. Interceptors fall into this category as well — they allow force projection in concert with stashes by making travel extremely fast and 99.999% safe. Yet, curiously, no one seeks to punish the interceptor due to its ability to do this.

If you'll read back a bit I am trying to ensure that these ships are set up conceptually to be locked into a specific role in the hope that one day CCP may consider a T2 version of the ship that can move fitted caps.

I'm just trying to ensure that the concept of a fitted ship mover is established from the beginning so if they want to play with and expand upon it in the future they can confidently do so.

Also, everybody is just thinking of this thing in terms of 3 battleships. I am an industrialist who has previously in my eve career been tasked with providing 100 fitted Atrons to make available on alliance contract. Don't be so narrow-minded. These things will be doing more than just moving 3 battleships. Given that there is a fairly large potential use for these things, I think their role should be firmly cemented as high sec non-bridged movers from the beginning.

While we do have a lot of titans, we're not about to ask individual pilots to consign their expensive ships to a life of sitting in a dingy lowsec point for the sole purpose of flinging around tugs. They're far more useful defending the homeland. Really, you only have yourselves to blame — the fact that everyone hates us necessitates this concentration of power.

Besides, like I've strenuously stated, the expense just isn't necessary while Jump Freighters and Interceptors exist. Why bother when there's a superlative option at significantly less expense?

If you want to hurt the seat of our power, going after interceptors is going to do a lot more to help than trying to craft convoluted fanfiction about ships you've never flown and organizations of which you will never belong.

I was refering to base rates:


Orca: 10750 / 6900 / 46000 - So to give you credit, yes.
Rorqual: 90000/30000/250000 - Just for ***** and giggles. since this one ACTUALLY is a capital ship (Quit calling ships what there not? I need the skill Capital Ships to fly a real capital ship. )

One benifiet of the orca is being able to overheat an active shield tank while you pray. Yes you get more hull, and yeah DCII helps with hull but you can't overheat DCII so paying attention while this ship is getting ganked adds no benefit to the owner.

Last I checked ORE had a shield icon, not a hull icon,

Cost to risk ratio does not make this viable at the moment, I will wait for updated figures

honestly I think you could create a bot that auto-replies to anyone in a non-sovholding corp that makes a post with the word "bridges" in it with "interceptors exist, therefore your point is wrong" and be exactly on point rebutting their post about 95% of the time

you might have to tweek the corp rules a little but that'd be it

Here some other feature that will help this paper thin freighter be more useful :
Dedicated ammo bay ?
Fitting service ?
Fleet hangar ?
5% agility / lvl ?
unscanable ship maintenance ?
+2 warp strengh ?
Bubble immunity ?
Jump drive ?
Covert cloack ?

Give it something really special apart of being a downgraded highsec carrier ...

or... add the feature of this ship to the rorqual and allow it in high sec...

That's what they said about freighters though

Just as an aside, you're severely betraying your lack of knowledge about how the game works with this post. When moving non-supercapital ships via non-jump-bridge jumps, you always light the cyno at a station, not at the POS. Lighting the cyno at a pos is a suicidal measure due to the inefficacy of pos guns and, while theoretically possible, is just stupid compared to the alternative that removes a significant portion of the risk.



Titan bridge chains often cut through lowsec to get between two nullsec points as a consequence of wanting to take the shortest path to a destination. Taking the shortest path cuts down on the pilots needed to do the task and, mighty though the CFC may be, we are still limited by the number of available titan pilots. See trail_of_tears.png for more info. Again, betraying your lack of knowledge about the things which you discuss.

You know what else does what you've described? Interceptors and Jump Freighters. In fact, interceptors do it up to eight times more quickly than the tug (depending on how much warp speed both options have been afforded and the exact route.) They do it significantly more safely to boot, due to being able to ignore bubbles. You simply cannot craft this vignette without compensating for the existence of the Interceptor. It's just not possible.


This is because you actually don't observe or have any real information about what we actually do. You're just making up fanfic due to the nature of the mechanics in question fomenting a position of extreme cognitive dissonance.