Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This is a nice hail mary, but it falls flat for the same reasons that TRAVEL INDUSTRIALS fall flat — namely, bubbles exist, jump freighters exist, and jump bridges are still one per system.

Besides, why wouldn't one salivate at the prospect of fleets of Bowheads traveling through space, ready to be dragged and summarily executed? Wouldn't one want the reasons for these ships to undock in 0.0 to be increased, not strangled?

My cloaky dreams have been smashed,

Seriously, you should just stop working on ships period. This business of releasing skills that affect exactly one ship are nonsense. I told you when you redid indys for the second time that the racial variants were stupid and that you should just convert everything to ORE and be done with it. Now that you are releasing even more niche ships and under the ORE banner you are going to release a new skill for it too? At this point you will now have three ORE related skills that affect ONE ship. This is getting out of hand and needs to stop.

ok so here is the issue. If i choose to move a couple of battleships its already worth it for gankers to try and blow me up. regardless of my fitting for the freighter.

Some math needs to be done on how many tornadoes it takes to kill it vs what a marauder t2 fit costs. ITs a cost benefit scenario if X the cost of tornadoes is lower than the potential benefit from drops ganks will ensue.

A potential fix would be to treat them as a shielded cargo bay that does not reveal cargo on scans then its some guess and check instead of promoting what i think everyone in this game - those that do it to make their isk all think is probably the worst game play mechanic in the game.

Lets be real the intended effect of concord is to prevent unwanted high sec engagements otherwise it would be ganks all the time.

It seems like every time i mention this it falls on deaf ears but industrial ships should have generally a pretty good tank.

I see ship fitting in this way, You get 3 options

1 does a lot of damage
2 moves very quickly
3 Tanks like a mother ******

Pick 2

for industrial you get the choice of pick 1 and not be very good at it.

TLDR if its moving fit ships they cost a lot of isk, make it tank more to compensate for that or make it a guessing game for gankers on which one has the more profitable ships in it.

Neat idea. See also Q Ships.

CCP make it right the first time please ... Listen to the community and make it happen instead of "fixing it later" after people refusing to fly it, because of meh low 1.6m m3 (make it at least 2m m3), meh resists, meh high price (keep it same as freighter prices), meh gang land flavor of the month, meh slots (+1 low slot minimum). Every time I relocate my operation is such a pain in the arse that almost make me regret how many ships I own.
Thank you for the Whale!

P.S. ORE ship designers must learned by now that their ships are crap against pirates and start improving right ... help them! or in the future all ORE ships will be produced by OREO, the sister company?

yo dawg, I herd u liek ships...

That would actually be interesting. Give Interbus some LP worth using and have both a BPO available (for large-scale production) and a BPC available for mission-runners and one-off builds. Having more options for LP is always a plus.

...actually, do Interbus even have agents? Now that I think about it, I've never seen one, but I've also never sought them out.

NOTE: I say the following not in this character's current role as a nullsec pilot, but as someone who also does highsec logistics and has done many different things in highsec, lowsec, and wormhole space as well. Keep that in mind for my comments to fully make sense, I'm not primarily talking about this in a nullsec context!

So let me get this straight...

• Less HP than an Orca (10,750 / 6,900 / 46,000)
• 2.6x the mass of an Orca (250,000,000 kg) and 5.8x the sig radius
• Can fit an absolute maximum of 3 battleships, the only class it's actually needed for at current.
• No High slot(s) to counteract any of the Orca comparison, which the Orca has highs
• Less HP than any single ship which actually justifies the use of this ship in moving

Yeah, I'll pass. This looks like a giant blinking neon "GANK ME" sign with two strobe lights on top, and nothing to make that risk worthwhile. Please tell me it's meant to troll the entire community? That's pretty much how it comes across.

They do. They share stations of other NPC corps. It's been more than once that I petitioned GMs about why my standing for X Corp wasnt going up.. then realized it was a dang IB agent :-\