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Elite: Dangerous v EVE

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Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#101 - 2014-11-10 07:02:25 UTC
Upgraded my preorder to the beta a few days ago due to boredom.

Very impressed with the game, the visuals and sound are amazing. The controls for my hotas feel very good and natural once I got it programmed to my liking.

The 1:1 scale of space is amazing, space actually feels HUGE.

Combat seems pretty interesting. I just got an Eagle with some upgraded guns that I plan on playing around with tomorrow to explore combat some more.

Only thing I can think of right now that would really like to see is a 3d map of local star system in addition to the one that in already in place.

-k8

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Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#102 - 2014-11-10 08:24:53 UTC
The thing that amuses me the most is people on General Discussion threatening to leave EVE for Elite: Dangeorus when it comes out because EVE is becoming "too carebear friendly" (which is nonsense anyway, the exact opposite is happening). If you read what Elite: Dangerous' developers are saying in their interviews, they're coding "anti-griefing" mechanics right into the game and using the beta to test that they work.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#103 - 2014-11-10 13:28:53 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
The thing that amuses me the most is people on General Discussion threatening to leave EVE for Elite: Dangeorus when it comes out because EVE is becoming "too carebear friendly" (which is nonsense anyway, the exact opposite is happening). If you read what Elite: Dangerous' developers are saying in their interviews, they're coding "anti-griefing" mechanics right into the game and using the beta to test that they work.


Anti-Greifing aside... It's still a fun game in addition to EvE.

Sometimes I just want to have something where you don't have to constantly keep your guard up and be able relax a bit. And solo mode is great for when I'm feeling anti-social.

-k8

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Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#104 - 2014-11-10 13:51:20 UTC
Commissar Kate wrote:
Anti-Greifing aside... It's still a fun game in addition to EvE.

Sometimes I just want to have something where you don't have to constantly keep your guard up and be able relax a bit. And solo mode is great for when I'm feeling anti-social.

Oh no! I absolutely agree. I'm just amused by the people throwing a tantrum over the (nonexistant) "softening" of EVE by threatening to ditch it for Elite, without realising they're not going to get what they want if they do that.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
#105 - 2014-11-10 18:41:42 UTC
Finally went and joined Beta3, and im surprised how well its runs on my Aspire 8920G (saving for supadupa rig) on low settings.
Cant land worth a damn, but its got me hooked.

It wont replace EVE, not for me anyway, but i am looking forward to it.



I like Honey.

Zimmy Zeta - I f*cking love martinis. the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap. Your old Friends can use me for 7 days, free!!!
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#106 - 2014-11-10 20:49:32 UTC
I've never had so much fun undocking and then re-docking Shocked

I did the first tutorial like 7 times.

Bacon makes us stronger
Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
#107 - 2014-11-10 22:31:35 UTC
Carmen Electra wrote:
I've never had so much fun undocking and then re-docking Shocked

I did the first tutorial like 7 times.



I just lost what little profit i made, by trying to dock without permission, i lost a ship, got fined and now owe more than i have.

Was just about to try combat zone to grab some bounties, when i lost connection to server.

Still hooked.



I like Jelly.

Zimmy Zeta - I f*cking love martinis. the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap. Your old Friends can use me for 7 days, free!!!
Mharius Skjem
Guardians of the Underworld
#108 - 2014-11-10 23:25:28 UTC
What happens when you die. Do you just re spawn or is there a clone mechanic like in eve.

I will give ED a try but I won't leave eve. The game mechanics are totally different. I'm getting too old to be good at twitch based gaming.

A recovering btter vet,  with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...

Don't take me too seriously though, I like to tease a bit on the forums, but that's only because I love you...
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#109 - 2014-11-10 23:28:45 UTC
Mharius Skjem wrote:
What happens when you die. Do you just re spawn or is there a clone mechanic like in eve.

I will give ED a try but I won't leave eve. The game mechanics are totally different. I'm getting too old to be good at twitch based gaming.


You just pay a little bit to get your ship and equipment back, I think cargo is lost too but I have not died with cargo yet so I can't tell you for sure.


It's not extremely twitchy like a FPS though. I would say good piloting/maneuvering skills are better to have than reaction time.

-k8

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Mharius Skjem
Guardians of the Underworld
#110 - 2014-11-10 23:37:46 UTC
Do you also create a character/avatar like in eve? As I've heard that it was built with avatars in mind.

A recovering btter vet,  with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...

Don't take me too seriously though, I like to tease a bit on the forums, but that's only because I love you...
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#111 - 2014-11-10 23:51:07 UTC
Mharius Skjem wrote:
Do you also create a character/avatar like in eve? As I've heard that it was built with avatars in mind.


No, but they said they want to do walking in stations and planetary landings.

I guess the avatar thing might happen when they do the walking in station stuff.

-k8

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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#112 - 2014-11-11 08:06:36 UTC
Who wants to wager how well the goons break the game?

If you remember when Star Trek online came out, there was a 200 page anti goon post in there and the devs reassured all of its players that there would be no griefing and goons would not be able to grief.

Well if you want to know what happened, go check out the starfleet dental videos. Im sure when Elite dangerous comes out that goons will find a way to drive everyone away with some spectacular and hilarious videos.

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.
Bertrand Butler
Cras es Noster
#113 - 2014-11-11 16:28:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Bertrand Butler
Carmen Electra wrote:
I've never had so much fun undocking and then re-docking Shocked

I did the first tutorial like 7 times.


Its very fun indeed. Also, although I have done it about a thousand times by now, I really cannot get bored by it. I think that the game conditions us to feel that this mundane task is a necessity, not a chore. ymmv though..

One the other hand, the amount of rage that this simple mechanic incurs when you are not careful is majestic, to say the least..things like boosting into the station outer wall, forgetting your landing gear, rebinding your HOTAS and forgetting something, trying to land in an unassigned slot or launching with your throttle @maximum thrust are staples of the game. XD


a pretty good example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYPtigdFxnA

and how you can take advantage of it after some practice...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLBon8U1Ez0
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#114 - 2014-11-11 17:17:18 UTC
Obsidian Hawk wrote:
Who wants to wager how well the goons break the game?

If you remember when Star Trek online came out, there was a 200 page anti goon post in there and the devs reassured all of its players that there would be no griefing and goons would not be able to grief.

Well if you want to know what happened, go check out the starfleet dental videos. Im sure when Elite dangerous comes out that goons will find a way to drive everyone away with some spectacular and hilarious videos.

I dunno, you tell me?


Kinda hard for us to break the game when there is a Solo mode.


Also we have yet to drive everyone away from EvE.

-k8

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Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#115 - 2014-11-11 17:18:23 UTC
Bertrand Butler wrote:
Carmen Electra wrote:
I've never had so much fun undocking and then re-docking Shocked

I did the first tutorial like 7 times.


Its very fun indeed. Also, although I have done it about a thousand times by now, I really cannot get bored by it. I think that the game conditions us to feel that this mundane task is a necessity, not a chore. ymmv though..

One the other hand, the amount of rage that this simple mechanic incurs when you are not careful is majestic, to say the least..things like boosting into the station outer wall, forgetting your landing gear, rebinding your HOTAS and forgetting something, trying to land in an unassigned slot or launching with your throttle @maximum thrust are staples of the game. XD


a pretty good example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYPtigdFxnA

and how you can take advantage of it after some practice...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLBon8U1Ez0


You mean I'm not suppose to fly through the hole at 200+ m/s ? Lol

I have yet to crash.

-k8

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Bertrand Butler
Cras es Noster
#116 - 2014-11-11 18:28:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Bertrand Butler
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#117 - 2014-11-11 20:10:48 UTC
Commissar Kate wrote:
Obsidian Hawk wrote:
Who wants to wager how well the goons break the game?

If you remember when Star Trek online came out, there was a 200 page anti goon post in there and the devs reassured all of its players that there would be no griefing and goons would not be able to grief.

Well if you want to know what happened, go check out the starfleet dental videos. Im sure when Elite dangerous comes out that goons will find a way to drive everyone away with some spectacular and hilarious videos.

I dunno, you tell me?


Kinda hard for us to break the game when there is a Solo mode.


Also we have yet to drive everyone away from EvE.


Guess it's the right time to say this.
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#118 - 2014-11-11 20:15:18 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Commissar Kate wrote:
Obsidian Hawk wrote:
Who wants to wager how well the goons break the game?

If you remember when Star Trek online came out, there was a 200 page anti goon post in there and the devs reassured all of its players that there would be no griefing and goons would not be able to grief.

Well if you want to know what happened, go check out the starfleet dental videos. Im sure when Elite dangerous comes out that goons will find a way to drive everyone away with some spectacular and hilarious videos.

I dunno, you tell me?


Kinda hard for us to break the game when there is a Solo mode.


Also we have yet to drive everyone away from EvE.


Guess it's the right time to say this.


Not really, I still like cake and all the things.

-k8

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Mharius Skjem
Guardians of the Underworld
#119 - 2014-11-11 23:57:37 UTC
Freakdevil wrote:
I welcome the addition of any new space game as it boosts interest in EVE and the space genre.
Personally I haven't followed the game's development but you have peaked my interest.

If Elite could copy EVE's economy and territory system, eliminate the gate camping and provide combat like X3 then yes it would or at least could severely impact EVE. But can or will it do that? I would love to see it try. I would love to see any game try. Been waiting for years for that.





I can't see that being a problem, as the origin elite game in the 80's did all of the above, though due to the limitations of technology back then it was single player.

In many ways eve is a direct successor of elite. Elite was the game I was looking for in spirit when I signed up for eve back in 2007, so Elite is a big deal for me.

Also with a small budget, they've delivered a playable game for the beta. Everyone is still waiting for star citizen which is heading in the right direction to be the world's most expensive vapour ware, so well done to the people over at ED.

A recovering btter vet,  with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...

Don't take me too seriously though, I like to tease a bit on the forums, but that's only because I love you...
Mharius Skjem
Guardians of the Underworld
#120 - 2014-11-12 00:03:50 UTC