EVE General Discussion

Go ask those "good people in the GSF" why they named it after me.

Again, we're getting side tracked by the money, I'm not asking for the status quo to be retained. I'm suggesting that ccp find another way of making death painful and tactically important, that doesn't involve clone costs.

The argument on the high cost of clones has been won. I'm glad to see an end to it. I just want ccp to make death a big deal in some other way. Eve needs to stay harsh.

I was just thinking, what karkur and other devs said in the o7 show about med clone removals allowing them to do something they can't talk about.

and the eve vegas presentation that talked about reasons why me clones are bad.

karkur's tone seemed pretty serious, and she let on that med clone removal was a significant part of CCP's sikrit plans.

it's also something foxfour made no mention of in his EVegas presentation.

so what is the likelihood that -all- of foxfour's player-facing reasons were not at all important reasons for CCP's decision to remove med clone grades.

there's something else that is rather telling about med clones. it's the fact that the highest practical clone grade was 260 million SP? or something, and the one after that was 450 million, as a type of catch-all.

basically, the clone grade system has reached the end of its originally imagined lifetime, and players are reaching those clone grade levels. 260 million is pretty much ten years of fully optimized skill training. seems like a fairly round number.

what it might mean is this was always going to be the juncture where a decision has to be made about how to iterate medical clones. otherwise, in a few years, a lot of people will be using those catch-all 260 million - 350 million SP clone grades. seems pretty blunt for a game mechanic in EVE.

maybe it was one of those things like Titans where EVE's first devs thought it was just so ridic that nobody would have them. but now, a lot of people have them. dr caymus is proof that EVE's epic skill train has been conquered.

but then how do you make skills interesting past 260 million SP? you can't. the only practical solution is to rewrite most of the concept behind medical clones in the most efficient way possible. the good news is EVE has proved to have the longevity to outlive the originally imagined 260 million SP figure.

I think it looks like splitting T2 skills into racial variants, and possibly doing the same with supports in the future.

there's the idealistic alternative, of completely new ship classes and skills, but that's unrealistic.

keep the past in mind, enjoy the game now, but consider what these things mean for the future.

that's one positive about a redistribution. not many characters will become the "I have everything trained" god.

not that it would change anything for them.

hahahahah I really like this idea. means there's absolutely no excuse. hahaha +1

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breaking news thread, meet breaking video.

Hey Unsuccessful, remember that one time when you were funny?

dude, wtf has unfunny been traded on character bazaar, who are you

I demand a witty comeback, people expect things.

Well, the gods of EVE are going to do what they are going to do. I just wonder, what will the Bob believers do? There may not be a way to gain the grace of Bob if it happens.

Just a thought there.

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Again you keep on bringing it back to the money when you are obviously rich enough that the money isn't a problem to you. If it was a problem you could ask your bosses to pay you out. So again no problem.

What i propose has nothing to do with the money.

Sp loss for repeated podding/death within 24 hours, you can have the first one free. Second one gets you a slight chance of sp loss, third one is slightly bigger etc.

Make death count for something.