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Zanziba'ar
Blood Raider Marauders
Blood Raider Shipyards
#1 - 2011-11-28 20:50:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Zanziba'ar
Ever since earlier this year I have found myself to be either Loved or Hated. I have travelled all over New Eden doing what I do best. Offering the expertise of my allies in the art of Security for ISK. We are mercenaries, Is it not as noble a trade as he who makes giant war machines? Now what I have found is that My mercenary work has made me un-employable any were but with my capsuleer mercenary alliance. From power bloc to Power bloc outside concords reach I was turned down for my employment history.

So tell me. Why is it that the Mercenary is so hated? or more untrusted?

I give a forward thanks for any replies I may receive
  • Mulzvich "Zanziba'ar" Gorath
ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#2 - 2011-11-28 20:56:15 UTC
Sure noble trade, and I am sure the asset/trade denial services that The Orphanage provides are quite successful, however the culture of New Eden is such, that it isn't really seen as a noteworthy occupation. My advice, do a black ops hotdrop or ten in the home systems of those you fight, and then perhaps they may realize that they are not safe in their own systems, and may come to have more respect or better yet, tears for you.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-11-28 21:32:09 UTC
I don't judge mercenaries, not at all - in fact, Duty, an old mercenary corp we used to be allies with, had some of the most honourable and respectable pilots you could ever hope to meet. I don't really know enough about The 0rphanage to judge whether you're honourable or not, but if I haven't heard anything terrible about you, you probably can't be all that bad.

I mean, if I can be brutally honest, I haven't heard anything particularly impressive about you either, and any mercenary corp I ever meet will always be judged to the standard of Duty at their prime, which, no offence, is a pretty high standard to live up to.

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Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2011-11-29 04:09:05 UTC
Mercenaries aren't hated, but you're not a mercenary. Orphanage is a trade interdiction service, you park your ships outside high security trade hubs and assault stupid null pilots in large groups. Is it any wonder regular combat pilots don't hold the same respect for you that they would for their actual enemies?

Mercenaries are a dying breed, it's all economic warfare now.

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Mikkel Lybecker
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2011-11-29 07:35:45 UTC
Allow me to break with tradition by having no strong opinions about the OP of any kind. Hell, I didn't even read all of it.
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#6 - 2011-11-30 06:38:10 UTC
Zanziba'ar wrote:

So tell me. Why is it that the Mercenary is so hated? or more untrusted?

I give a forward thanks for any replies I may receive


Quite simply, because in the eye of a citizen, be he commoner or holder, a Mercenary is perceived as a loose cannon. People like predictable things. Everything is a part of a certain.. hierarchy. People wake up, cater to their work, guided by their... well, whatever it is that guides them. A hostile force might be hated for one political motive or the other, but it it also follows a certain hierarchy, or a moral code if you wish. You know they have a certain modus operandi, and certain limits.

A mercenary might have this as well, don't get me wrong. But this is not how people perceive them. In eyes of the broader public, a mercenary is a stray dog, a pariah whose only moral guideline is the weight of his monetary account. ISK, that alluring mistress, if you wish.
Society doesn't fear or hate mercenaries because they have weaponry or will to fight... everybody does these days... they do that because they seem unpredictable.
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Audrial
Fly By Night Corporation
#7 - 2011-12-10 14:45:02 UTC
"Ever since earlier this year I have found myself to be either Loved or Hated. "

You left something out... at least where I fly... You are either loved, hated or feared.

I can only comment on my own experience, and seeing the likes of a mercenary in space sends chills down my spine, and not the pleasant kind, mind you. If there is an opportunity to identify a mercenary in space, i will gladly cloak and wait for you to pass. I don't intend to be harsh. I earn a modest income hauling and selling my wares and do what I must to protect my livelihood.

xxxxooooxxxxooooxxxx Audrial

Zanziba'ar
Blood Raider Marauders
Blood Raider Shipyards
#8 - 2011-12-13 08:14:00 UTC
The mercenary is here to make no more of an honest living than you. If you have not befouled anyone then you have no reason to fear us
  • Mulzvich "Zanziba'ar" Gorath
Audrial
Fly By Night Corporation
#9 - 2011-12-13 15:38:09 UTC
Zanziba'ar wrote:
The mercenary is here to make no more of an honest living than you. If you have not befouled anyone then you have no reason to fear us


Would you therefore extend safe harbor to me as I perchance dwell in a system you are in? It would be most reassuring if so.

Audrial

xxxxooooxxxxooooxxxx Audrial

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
#10 - 2011-12-14 20:03:53 UTC
Aiwha wrote:
Mercenaries aren't hated, but you're not a mercenary. Orphanage is a trade interdiction service, you park your ships outside high security trade hubs and assault stupid null pilots in large groups. Is it any wonder regular combat pilots don't hold the same respect for you that they would for their actual enemies?

Mercenaries are a dying breed, it's all economic warfare now.



How I miss the golden days of the profession.
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2011-12-14 20:08:08 UTC
ask Undertovv how being only hated is

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Zanziba'ar
Blood Raider Marauders
Blood Raider Shipyards
#12 - 2011-12-17 12:13:43 UTC
Aiwha wrote:
Mercenaries aren't hated, but you're not a mercenary. Orphanage is a trade interdiction service, you park your ships outside high security trade hubs and assault stupid null pilots in large groups. Is it any wonder regular combat pilots don't hold the same respect for you that they would for their actual enemies?

Mercenaries are a dying breed, it's all economic warfare now.




Please tell me. how I am no mercenary? I have stolen a few contracts from Noir. I was previously listed in "Merc Contracts" and iIget paid to do what I do. Same goes for The 0rphanage.
  • Mulzvich "Zanziba'ar" Gorath
Niraia
Starcakes
Cynosural Field Theory.
#13 - 2011-12-17 12:47:33 UTC
Zanziba'ar wrote:
iIget paid to do what I do. Same goes for The 0rphanage.


You're no better than whores, and you wonder why some people don't respect your profession?

Nicoletta Mithra
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#14 - 2011-12-17 16:38:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicoletta Mithra
Zanziba'ar wrote:
Ever since earlier this year I have found myself to be either Loved or Hated.


Maybe you find yourself loved or hated because the reactions these emotions bring with them are more noticeable than the ones that people who don't care for you either way show?

What you find yourself to be is more a reflection of your own way to perceive the world around you than how the world does treat you objectively, on average. I'm sure most people couldn't care less about you.
Ravan Hekki
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2011-12-19 00:38:36 UTC
If they are honest, work hard and stick to their contracts a merc is just as important and should be valued as much as any other tradesman.
Ugleb
Jotunn Risi
#16 - 2011-12-19 18:33:55 UTC
Audrial wrote:
"Ever since earlier this year I have found myself to be either Loved or Hated. "

You left something out... at least where I fly... You are either loved, hated or feared.

I can only comment on my own experience, and seeing the likes of a mercenary in space sends chills down my spine, and not the pleasant kind, mind you. If there is an opportunity to identify a mercenary in space, i will gladly cloak and wait for you to pass. I don't intend to be harsh. I earn a modest income hauling and selling my wares and do what I must to protect my livelihood.


Are you describing a mercenary, or a pirate? A mercenary is paid to pursue a specific person, group or objective in their contract, whereas a pirate will attack whatever target they happen across that could present a profit.

You appear to be describing an opportunist aggressor, not a 'true' mercenary. Unless of course, someone had reason to place a price on your head.

I hold no particular ill-will against mercs or pirates, but there is a distinction to draw between the two.

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