Missions & Complexes

Bastion marauders kronos and a pair od pallys work fine, take a mobile depot with you an both long and short range guns however whe i last tested it long ago the blaster kronos was fine for short range and 2 pulse pallys did the longer range. Only one of the tested sites needed a weapon swap to beams.

Easier with 4 or 5 but if you have that many you can do vgs.

I was thinking maybe 5 tengus with local reps or other t3s.

I just did one (Asteroid one) with a pair of dominix Spider tanked... I thought they would be a cakewalk from the last time I did them before the change.

1) I killed the first wave no issue (although the Jamming was a pain)
2) Had to warp out on the other waves and back in at range for sentry drones due to the extremely high DPS of some ships hitting me with 2200 Damage... ouch.
3) Payout was no where close to being worth doing it... Any decent level 4 mission pays more and is about as quick.

If you just want to check it out as I did, have at it, otherwise as already stated "total waste of ISK/Time compared to other solo options. I can see doing them to learn the higher end incursion mechanics, but that's all.

PS.. the system was dead, my two toons where the only ones in local... makes sense.

So, I'm assuming you have each done these scout missions as one player with multiple accounts. Has anyone multi-boxed them? Or have an opinion, other than "I hate multi-boxers" on fleet makeup, fits or any tips on multiboxing them?

I have not done any incursions seriously for over two years. I did do a few VGs with my mains whole corp of 74 players and about 200 accounts on a few VGs as a lark to see how fast we could go through them and speed off to the next on. We did it a few different times, never entering an occupied site or contesting - we would leave if another fleet came in until someone sent us a message that they only were following us to see how the carnage went. We still caught hell from the other fleets for interrupting their schedules or something. We even got accused of multiboxing the 200 or so ships. It was fun to alpha waves, but we had no incursion specialization of fittings, ships, or implants and we had everything from Mallers to Vindis and no logis, but many who had extra high slots all fitted with shield transporters and we organized our squads so the squad leaders could manage the few repairs needed. We did a couple of sites using only drones in wing sized drone balls. We even had some dedicated salvagers, so left nothing behind. It all went into our corp scholarship fund for hard working noobs who never ask for a handout, a strict rule of ours - never give to anyone who has the temerity to ask strangers for a handout.

The corp is waning, I'm 67 and one of the youngest, we all knew or knew of each other in the US Army and have used gaming as an active social media going back to Rogue Spear. Task organizing for us is easy.

A couple of weeks ago, and foolishly without gathering any intel on the new scout missions from patch notes or from other players, I took a Vindi I fitted with the TVP advanced fits (it was an exact duplicate) solo into a Scout mission. I'm going to return to incursioning now that the fleets have many different and proficient FCs (the three worth flying with back then, Serge, Daisey, NomaTech, and there were a couple of more were so overworked) and the fleets seem to be comprised of people who are thinking about incursions while doing them. I left incursions after the final straw of being in a fleet with a few marauders who were fitted totalling for salvaging and doing nothing but salvaging and getting paid for the site while I was buying ammo and firing more than I should to make up for the salvagers and while steaming about that, the FRIGGIN' FC announced, "PROMO" and everyone started multasking the incursion and Blink. I almost just warped off, but I did complete the mission, more to get paid than not abandoning fleet mates in mid-mission and reducing the effectiveness of the fleet.

Before returning to a TVP fleet and playing like an doing something idiotic, I wanted to get my feet wet soloing a scout mission as I used to do in a Harbinger and then go back to running HQs with TVP. I was surprised to get webbed by a couple of ships, much less to die that fast.

VGs with 5 ships? I've done them with 8 or 9 ships before the first time incursions were changed since introduction. You wouldn't mind sharing the fits or any tips for 5 ships would you?

Thanks very much and Fly safe, 07

scouts are totaly borked vs VG

someone did derp math on how much ehp/rep and damage they wanted to put in scout sites...

stay away from them; thats all i can advice you
edit: i'll let you know how long the sites take with a full VG fleet ;) if its over 6 minutes you are better to do VGs and actualy get a payout...

Yeah, that doesn't even begin to compare to VGs with fleet/payout size, fittings, etc. Seems to me they need to dial them back a little bit while keeping the payouts. The whole idea of scouts was to have sites to run while fleet members where joining, and thus running a partial fleet. Almost not even worth the time.