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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#121 - 2014-11-07 14:40:40 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Actually veers, we were here beforehand and that's what drew you, you knew that one of us would say something snarky here because everyone else is sic of you and is no longer giving you any attention.


Exactly the best way to deal is to completely ignore and wait for someone to claim the bounty.

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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#122 - 2014-11-07 16:18:02 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Actually veers, we were here beforehand and that's what drew you, you knew that one of us would say something snarky here because everyone else is sic of you and is no longer giving you any attention.


Exactly the best way to deal is to completely ignore and wait for someone to claim the bounty.


I fully support this...just keep posting as usual, avoid the flame wars and personal attacks, and show a higher level of maturity. I hope this means you guys have turned over a new leaf and are ready to post constructively.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#123 - 2014-11-07 18:46:33 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Veers Goblin

Or

Gevlon Belvar?

Self important? Check.
No space friends? Check.
Don't "get it"? Double check.

Same guy? Most likely.

I am sorry, but I have to disagree here.

Gevlon uses ingame mechanics and wealth to try to influence the game. No matter how misguided his ideas may be, he has my respect for that, he is a gamer and not a pure forum whiner like Veers.

Evil RatKid
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#124 - 2014-11-07 18:51:00 UTC
pssshhhh! we are giving him the silent treatment!

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#125 - 2014-11-07 19:03:28 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Veers Goblin

Or

Gevlon Belvar?

Self important? Check.
No space friends? Check.
Don't "get it"? Double check.

Same guy? Most likely.

I am sorry, but I have to disagree here.

Gevlon uses ingame mechanics and wealth to try to influence the game. No matter how misguided his ideas may be, he has my respect for that, he is a gamer and not a pure forum whiner like Veers.


Gevlon creates content for Goons...he actually makes them stronger...a giant fail. I engage on the forums, the opposite of content, and eventually these folks get tired of their blue donut and try to make the game more interesting.
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#126 - 2014-11-07 20:02:21 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Gevlon creates content for Goons...he actually makes them stronger...a giant fail. I engage on the forums, the opposite of content, and eventually these folks get tired of their blue donut and try to make the game more interesting.


How are the forums the opposite of content? Please explain further your position on this.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#127 - 2014-11-07 20:50:48 UTC
Tengu Grib wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Gevlon creates content for Goons...he actually makes them stronger...a giant fail. I engage on the forums, the opposite of content, and eventually these folks get tired of their blue donut and try to make the game more interesting.


How are the forums the opposite of content? Please explain further your position on this.


It doesn't give Goons anything interesting to do. Fighting them in game gives them a purpose and fun, which motivates them to keep the boring status quo going. Denying them in game content, for example by engaging them on the forums, creates boredom, and shows them why the blue donut needs to go.
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#128 - 2014-11-07 20:55:49 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Tengu Grib wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Gevlon creates content for Goons...he actually makes them stronger...a giant fail. I engage on the forums, the opposite of content, and eventually these folks get tired of their blue donut and try to make the game more interesting.


How are the forums the opposite of content? Please explain further your position on this.


It doesn't give Goons anything interesting to do. Fighting them in game gives them a purpose and fun, which motivates them to keep the boring status quo going. Denying them in game content, for example by engaging them on the forums, creates boredom, and shows them why the blue donut needs to go.


I disagree, engaging them on the forums provides entertainment and keeps them interested in the game. You have to remember, I highly doubt they ever choose not to log in because there is something good happening on the forum. They are on the forum when there is nothing going on in the game, or when they are at work and not able to log in anyways. Forum content is still content.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#129 - 2014-11-07 22:17:07 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Veers Goblin

Or

Gevlon Belvar?

Self important? Check.
No space friends? Check.
Don't "get it"? Double check.

Same guy? Most likely.

I am sorry, but I have to disagree here.

Gevlon uses ingame mechanics and wealth to try to influence the game. No matter how misguided his ideas may be, he has my respect for that, he is a gamer and not a pure forum whiner like Veers.


Your face is a forum whiner! OH SNAP! **MIC DROPPED**

Pistols at noon?

But really, yes exactly what you said.

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Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
SL33PERS
#130 - 2014-11-08 15:56:50 UTC
Kaldi Tsukaya wrote:
Received a response to my mail.
Unfortunately I cannot reproduce any of it, even in C&P, without violating the forum rule:

7. Discussion of real life religion and politics is prohibited.

Discussion of real life religion and politics is strictly prohibited on the EVE Online forums. Discussions of this nature often creates animosity between forum users due to real life political or military conflicts. CCP promotes the growth of a gaming community where equality is at the forefront. Nationalist, religious or political afiliations are not part of EVE Online, and should not be part of discussion on the EVE Online forums.


You got trolled by the guy.
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#131 - 2014-11-08 17:35:33 UTC
I think newbies being killers is a killer idea. More of them should try it.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#132 - 2014-11-08 23:49:01 UTC
Tengu Grib wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Tengu Grib wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Gevlon creates content for Goons...he actually makes them stronger...a giant fail. I engage on the forums, the opposite of content, and eventually these folks get tired of their blue donut and try to make the game more interesting.


How are the forums the opposite of content? Please explain further your position on this.


It doesn't give Goons anything interesting to do. Fighting them in game gives them a purpose and fun, which motivates them to keep the boring status quo going. Denying them in game content, for example by engaging them on the forums, creates boredom, and shows them why the blue donut needs to go.


I disagree, engaging them on the forums provides entertainment and keeps them interested in the game. You have to remember, I highly doubt they ever choose not to log in because there is something good happening on the forum. They are on the forum when there is nothing going on in the game, or when they are at work and not able to log in anyways. Forum content is still content.


Vast majority of Goons are not on forums.....if eve gets boring...goons quit and do something else. Ergo anything that makes eve interesting for goons, mainly pew pew, makes them stronger.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#133 - 2014-11-09 00:07:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Leto Thule
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Veers Goblin

Or

Gevlon Belvar?

Self important? Check.
No space friends? Check.
Don't "get it"? Double check.

Same guy? Most likely.

I am sorry, but I have to disagree here.

Gevlon uses ingame mechanics and wealth to try to influence the game. No matter how misguided his ideas may be, he has my respect for that, he is a gamer and not a pure forum whiner like Veers.


I won't argue with the forum whiner point... But goblins understanding of game mechanics? No way brother.

His whole blog page devoted to active tanked mining titans...

His total lack of concept why people would use bombers instead of cap fleets to pop structures...

Yeah man goblin doesn't know anything about EVE other than the money aspect.

Edit: but he DOES try to accomplish goals... So I suppose I can see your point.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#134 - 2014-11-09 01:34:28 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:


I won't argue with the forum whiner point... But goblins understanding of game mechanics? No way brother.

His whole blog page devoted to active tanked mining titans...

His total lack of concept why people would use bombers instead of cap fleets to pop structures...

Yeah man goblin doesn't know anything about EVE other than the money aspect.

Edit: but he DOES try to accomplish goals... So I suppose I can see your point.


What goes does he "try" to accomplish exactly? Destroying goons? taking over the world? I mean, it's all a farce, there are no real goals, and no real hope for success either.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#135 - 2014-11-09 06:44:48 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:


I won't argue with the forum whiner point... But goblins understanding of game mechanics? No way brother.

His whole blog page devoted to active tanked mining titans...

His total lack of concept why people would use bombers instead of cap fleets to pop structures...

Yeah man goblin doesn't know anything about EVE other than the money aspect.

Edit: but he DOES try to accomplish goals... So I suppose I can see your point.


What goes does he "try" to accomplish exactly? Destroying goons? taking over the world? I mean, it's all a farce, there are no real goals, and no real hope for success either.


Absolutely right. But he has set a goal (however lofty or unatainable as it may be) and he does whatever his little mining titan focused mind can do to get there.

He is pretty terrible, but at least he isn't a Nerf monger.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Kon Kre8r
#136 - 2014-12-13 21:09:31 UTC
ATTN: ALL NOOBS -- I donate Free Frigs for Noobs -- Now over 400 Tristans donated :)
If someone could refer to me to whatever link for this -- I would like to keep making donations like this via other person for when I am not active in game.

I am also Sponsor for Clause Cause -- Donated Many fun faction frigs for prizes.

Black Ops ships using Covert Jump Portals with Covert Cynos are NOT allowed to use Covert Cloaks. That makes sense.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#137 - 2014-12-14 02:55:28 UTC
Newbies getting killed is supposed to happen. Getting blown up is a totally normal part of the game. I'm not sure what is so incredibly difficult to understand about that idea.
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#138 - 2014-12-14 13:34:26 UTC  |  Edited by: La Rynx
Veers Belvar wrote:

What goes does he "try" to accomplish exactly? Destroying goons? taking over the world? I mean, it's all a farce, there are no real goals, and no real hope for success either.


Playing the EvE sandbox he does.
Since he obviously makes a lot of isk, he reinvests them to create content.

If its pro/con goons does not realy matter.

Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Newbies getting killed is supposed to happen. Getting blown up is a totally normal part of the game. I'm not sure what is so incredibly difficult to understand about that idea.


Experienced players concentrating an Newbies might get a problem.
Thats a sad story.
One killing a certain newb over and over again is sadder.
The recurring kill to sell a permit to newbs is harrasment.

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
Phaedron
Doomheim
#139 - 2014-12-29 05:20:10 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
and 2 troll posts in a row! An auspicious start for team anti-veers.


Team Veers:

Veers Belvar

Team anti-Veers:

Everyone else in EvE


if Veers will have me i'll gladly offer to be part of his team just to spite you. Blink
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#140 - 2014-12-29 07:25:07 UTC
Closed at OP's request.

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