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Simple solution for ISBoxed gank reimbursements!

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Nolak Ataru
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2014-11-07 01:10:09 UTC
If a ship is ganked by an ISBoxer, and is subsequently reimbursed because the player used ISBoxer, reimburse the ganker's ships as well.

Simple change, since CCP doesn't want to own up to the fact that they dislike ISBoxer PVP, or that they have GMs that have hateboners for ISBoxer and reimburse willy-nilly.
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2014-11-07 01:17:08 UTC
Nolak Ataru wrote:
If a ship is ganked by an ISBoxer, and is subsequently reimbursed because the player used ISBoxer, reimburse the ganker's ships as well.

Simple change, since CCP doesn't want to own up to the fact that they dislike ISBoxer PVP, or that they have GMs that have hateboners for ISBoxer and reimburse willy-nilly.

last i heard they dont reimburse iskbox kills
Eldwinn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-11-07 01:54:44 UTC
We still rumor mongering about this crap? There has been like multiple posts from Fozie about this.
Nolak Ataru
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-11-07 02:04:14 UTC
Rowells wrote:
Nolak Ataru wrote:
If a ship is ganked by an ISBoxer, and is subsequently reimbursed because the player used ISBoxer, reimburse the ganker's ships as well.

Simple change, since CCP doesn't want to own up to the fact that they dislike ISBoxer PVP, or that they have GMs that have hateboners for ISBoxer and reimburse willy-nilly.

last i heard they dont reimburse iskbox kills


The rorqual lost to Replicator and Skyrider Deathknight's Vindicator would like to have a word with you.

Eldwinn wrote:
We still rumor mongering about this crap? There has been like multiple posts from Fozie about this.


Fozzie has claimed that policies haven't changed, however the multiboxer community would like to disagree.
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#5 - 2014-11-07 03:10:39 UTC
Nolak Ataru wrote:
Rowells wrote:
Nolak Ataru wrote:
If a ship is ganked by an ISBoxer, and is subsequently reimbursed because the player used ISBoxer, reimburse the ganker's ships as well.

Simple change, since CCP doesn't want to own up to the fact that they dislike ISBoxer PVP, or that they have GMs that have hateboners for ISBoxer and reimburse willy-nilly.

last i heard they dont reimburse iskbox kills


The rorqual lost to Replicator and Skyrider Deathknight's Vindicator would like to have a word with you.

links please
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#6 - 2014-11-07 04:00:00 UTC
Why would CCP want to ENCOURAGE more multibox ganking? The fact that some victims are getting reimbursed suggests they are unhappy with it, but don't know how to properly tackle it.
Nolak Ataru
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2014-11-07 04:13:09 UTC
Rowells wrote:
Nolak Ataru wrote:
Rowells wrote:
Nolak Ataru wrote:
If a ship is ganked by an ISBoxer, and is subsequently reimbursed because the player used ISBoxer, reimburse the ganker's ships as well.

Simple change, since CCP doesn't want to own up to the fact that they dislike ISBoxer PVP, or that they have GMs that have hateboners for ISBoxer and reimburse willy-nilly.

last i heard they dont reimburse iskbox kills


The rorqual lost to Replicator and Skyrider Deathknight's Vindicator would like to have a word with you.

links please

https://zkillboard.com/kill/41817646/
http://i.imgur.com/VcK9nh3.jpg
13kr1d1
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2014-11-07 05:50:56 UTC
It represents a real imbalance between players. You can't fight multiboxing without doing it yourself, which forces the hand of people to pay RL money to compete through their own accounts. The solution of "bring friends" is a bit ridiculous if the multiboxer also brings his friends who also multibox. Short of paying for more accounts to do it yourself, it's a permanent imbalance gained through another player spending extra money in real life. That sounds pay to win. It's a problem for CCP because they want the sub money, and they have no good way of saying that it's bad for the game that won't rock the boat. After all, people with so many extra accounts pay the majority of Eve, not the people who only play one account. On the other hand, when this unfair scenario is easily detected by players with only one account, they will get pissed off and leave unless reimbursed. CCP knows this or they wouldn't reimburse.

Kudos for providing the hilarious km and screen shot. Hope that deals effectively with the people saying its just rumors.

Don't kid yourselves. Even the dirtiest pirates from the birth of EVE have been carebears. They use alts to bring them goods at cheap prices and safely, rather than live with consequences of their in game actions on their main, from concord to prices

Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#9 - 2014-11-07 06:56:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
Veers Belvar wrote:
Why would CCP want to ENCOURAGE more multibox ganking? The fact that some victims are getting reimbursed suggests they are unhappy with it, but don't know how to properly tackle it.


Like this:

"The use of ISBoxer is officially prohibited. Please see this dev blog for more information. Comments can be left in this forum thread."
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#10 - 2014-11-07 07:09:17 UTC
Nolak Ataru wrote:
Rowells wrote:
Nolak Ataru wrote:

The rorqual lost to Replicator and Skyrider Deathknight's Vindicator would like to have a word with you.

links please

https://zkillboard.com/kill/41817646/
http://i.imgur.com/VcK9nh3.jpg


Tinkerhell won't like that. Twisted Now we can reimburse our towers lost to his multiboxed horde, I wonder how CCP is going to do this. Roll

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Miromme Echerie
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-11-07 07:31:09 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Nolak Ataru wrote:
Rowells wrote:
Nolak Ataru wrote:

The rorqual lost to Replicator and Skyrider Deathknight's Vindicator would like to have a word with you.

links please

https://zkillboard.com/kill/41817646/
http://i.imgur.com/VcK9nh3.jpg


Tinkerhell won't like that. Twisted Now we can reimburse our towers lost to his multiboxed horde, I wonder how CCP is going to do this. Roll

Spawn it in the anchorers current station? Or throw it in a corp hangar?
Hopelesshobo
Hoboland
#12 - 2014-11-07 07:35:51 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Nolak Ataru wrote:
Rowells wrote:
Nolak Ataru wrote:

The rorqual lost to Replicator and Skyrider Deathknight's Vindicator would like to have a word with you.

links please

https://zkillboard.com/kill/41817646/
http://i.imgur.com/VcK9nh3.jpg


Tinkerhell won't like that. Twisted Now we can reimburse our towers lost to his multiboxed horde, I wonder how CCP is going to do this. Roll


That picture means nothing. He could have easily lost another ship due to the servers taking a dump. There is nothing in that mail that links that reimbursement to that vindicator that was ganked. From there, there is no proof that the reimbursement was because the people doing the ganking were even using isboxer, or because of something else.

Lowering the average to make you look better since 2012.

Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#13 - 2014-11-07 07:39:00 UTC
Miromme Echerie wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Nolak Ataru wrote:
Rowells wrote:
Nolak Ataru wrote:

The rorqual lost to Replicator and Skyrider Deathknight's Vindicator would like to have a word with you.

links please

https://zkillboard.com/kill/41817646/
http://i.imgur.com/VcK9nh3.jpg


Tinkerhell won't like that. Twisted Now we can reimburse our towers lost to his multiboxed horde, I wonder how CCP is going to do this. Roll

Spawn it in the anchorers current station? Or throw it in a corp hangar?


LOL. No. Replace the currently anchored MOROS tower.

UI Improvement Collective

My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.

VTyx Soul
Station Window Lickers
#14 - 2014-11-07 08:14:37 UTC
They do not reimburse for isboxing, I've spoken to replicator many times on teamspeak and he has never heard of reimbursement, it seems to be just a rumour
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#15 - 2014-11-07 08:40:01 UTC
VTyx Soul wrote:
They do not reimburse for isboxing, I've spoken to replicator many times on teamspeak and he has never heard of reimbursement, it seems to be just a rumour

Awww! Cry

On the other hand: Good that they don't, it's a very slippery-slope. Lol

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My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.

Gaiden R
Dot.Inc
#16 - 2014-11-07 08:45:17 UTC

https://zkillboard.com/kill/41817646/
http://i.imgur.com/VcK9nh3.jpg[/quote]

Tinkerhell won't like that. Twisted Now we can reimburse our towers lost to his multiboxed horde, I wonder how CCP is going to do this. Roll[/quote]
Spawn it in the anchorers current station? Or throw it in a corp hangar?[/quote]

LOL. No. Replace the currently anchored MOROS tower.
[/quote]



i didnt realize that running 5 client without isboxer was something that hurt your feelings ?

also im not tinker hell but i however do often feild 4 client at the same time agaisnt your "fleets" lol ?

does that mean everytime you die you want to get re imburrsed i just think you are a little but hurt :=)
TinkerHell
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#17 - 2014-11-07 09:32:27 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Nolak Ataru wrote:
Rowells wrote:
Nolak Ataru wrote:

The rorqual lost to Replicator and Skyrider Deathknight's Vindicator would like to have a word with you.

links please

https://zkillboard.com/kill/41817646/
http://i.imgur.com/VcK9nh3.jpg


Tinkerhell won't like that. Twisted Now we can reimburse our towers lost to his multiboxed horde, I wonder how CCP is going to do this. Roll


I dont use isboxer.
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2014-11-07 10:57:24 UTC
Nolak Ataru wrote:
Rowells wrote:
Nolak Ataru wrote:
Rowells wrote:
Nolak Ataru wrote:
If a ship is ganked by an ISBoxer, and is subsequently reimbursed because the player used ISBoxer, reimburse the ganker's ships as well.

Simple change, since CCP doesn't want to own up to the fact that they dislike ISBoxer PVP, or that they have GMs that have hateboners for ISBoxer and reimburse willy-nilly.

last i heard they dont reimburse iskbox kills


The rorqual lost to Replicator and Skyrider Deathknight's Vindicator would like to have a word with you.

links please

https://zkillboard.com/kill/41817646/
http://i.imgur.com/VcK9nh3.jpg


20 minutes from getting killed to reimbursement? Na man, fake.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#19 - 2014-11-07 11:52:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade
TinkerHell wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:

Tinkerhell won't like that. Twisted Now we can reimburse our towers lost to his multiboxed horde, I wonder how CCP is going to do this. Roll


I dont use isboxer.

It's not like I would need to resort to this kind of methods in the first place; neither multiboxing to such a scale (as we have enough active members to fill our fleets), nor petitioning (as we are not 5 year olds). Though, other people in this game are not as civilized as we are. Gaiden, for instance, you really should teach him better spelling and grammar, and how to quote correctly. Big smile

UI Improvement Collective

My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.

Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#20 - 2014-11-07 12:15:41 UTC
noone can multibox more than 3 clients at same time in combat. And even that is already very hard to do.
I think CCP is very well able to recognize isbotters reliably, technically (click speed and click positions across clients) and visually.

Multiboxing is fine as such but not in automated manner like provided by isbotter, use of such tools should be punished with temp ban and permanent ban on 2nd attempt.
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