Missions & Complexes

So data sites in Phoebe are supposed to be rebalanced. I was so glad to hear... Well not the case, the loot is still laughable and the BPCs are not worth the effort. ANY effort.

Actually the BPCs in relics are not worth the effort.

I thought at first and had high hopes that now the data sites will be really on the same level with relics, at least in NPC null. The trade goods selling for few thousand ISK?

Really? From 0.0001% to 0.00010001% or what. Never seen any and I I did thousands.

Really? See above. Laughable. 1 Optimised balanced vs. 14 Intact Armor Plates? When devs are talking about balancing, do they have someone who really knows the market?

COOL! You can sell all those and then buy a really good rookie ship. Wait! Rookie ships are free. Exactly!

LOL. See above, but only half of a rookie ship.

These are really good, but if the loot is not worth the effort, what's the point anyway?

"Null Security space Data and Relic exploration sites can now also be encountered in Wormhole Class 1, 2 and 3 systems. "

Hmmm... Dunno. I kinda like this. Did a few sites in a few C3. Seems like high percentage of the last patches are oriented towards driving people into w-space. Including jump fatigue changes. Parts of null are now going to pray each day for a k-space static WH so they can haul some stuff out of null and back.

So what wrong with these "pseudo-balancings"? What I am missing? What is next in Rhea? Lowering relic sites to balance more?

Tbh i agree with the OP. All datasites should drop at least 5 faction control towers bpcs, a random t2 bpo and between and 1-10 bill in sleeper loot. The current system is clearly not balanced properly.

HI,

I'm currently recording the value of Relic and data sites in low sec, null and WH space to see how they balance against each other.

Once I've got at of data I'll post up some graphs with what I've found and the method of data collection.

So far though it does look at if data sites have actually been nerfed as I'm not getting the decyptors which was where i would get isk from, the new items are a negligible increase in isk value.

After doing lots of relics in WHs, I get the feeling that Sansha wiht Intact Armor Plates are the king of relics. What other faction gives comparable value loot?

I completely agree. Since the patch data sites have become a lot worse.

Yet to see anything of value, why would i bother doing 1,2 or even 10 data sites when i can keep going and complete 1 Relic site for 10 up to 20 times what i can get from a data site.

Whoever in CCP think they buffed Data sites needs to lay off the crack.

Blood Raider relics with capacitor consoles.

So yeah, I got a faction BPC, but even if I would build it it would be like 30 mils profit and averaging the data sites numbers I've dont for ONE such BPC, would render it under 10k isk on average, so basically you wont feel it.

50 data sites, 3 optimized decryptors and 1 faction BPC.

"Buff" as in increase drop rate. Nevermind what the market says, what the demand is.

I mean does anyone remember decryptors for 20+ M? Yeah right the better ones were worth that much.

You're better off mining veld in a venture than doing data sites.

They should just add a chance for data sites dropping the components needed to build story line items, that would actually make data sites more valuable and make story line items more accessible to everyone.

While i'm sure the handful of people who currently farm the cosmos sites don't agree, tough luck the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.