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epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#41 - 2014-11-06 22:54:48 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
I personally, am really looking forward to the other wormhole systems, quietly mentioned at the beginning of his announcement, SmileCool thera sounds facinating, but there is so much opportunity for great things now WH space can be added to.

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Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#42 - 2014-11-06 23:03:08 UTC
Niskin wrote:
Thera, as announced, will only have k-space connections. So that could simplify it. But that could also change, we don't really know.

EDIT: Did I miss something about random w-space connections to Thera?


Fozzie mentioned it will be mostly k-space, no w-space statics but some wandering wormholes from w-space.

epicurus ataraxia wrote:

It depends how big the system is, If the same as currently, well no change there. If it is fifty times bigger? Well, hopefully there's a team of scan monkeys handy.


If its that big your going to find somebodies booster even if not the one your looking for heh.
Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#43 - 2014-11-06 23:13:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Phoenix Jones
Jack Miton wrote:
Yay, docking games in WHs!!! *eyeroll*

This just gonna be the Sansha incursion base system?
It's the only story based thing that would make any sense at all so wouldn't surprise me.

Phoenix Jones wrote:
unimatrix0030 wrote:
Good point, off grid boost could be completly off balance!

This needs to be made a more significant point.

Off grid boosters are pretty easily scannable... I don't see the problem.


In a typical system, sure.

If all they do is orbit the highsec, or if system is some comedy size like 1,000 AU, that becomes significantly harder.

I'd rather it a playground for everybody than just a playground to those who brought boosts.

Edit: I am not saying disable them, but this needs to be looked at in this particular situation. We'll see.

Yaay!!!!
Alundil
Rolled Out
#44 - 2014-11-06 23:21:15 UTC
calaretu wrote:
King Fu Hostile wrote:
**** arenas


And pandas? Nah dont think this will be anything resembling arenas

In before Sleepers look like actual Pandas and were evolved from a space-faring offshoot of the Pandarians (kill me now).

srsbsns (some theory/prediction)
Thera =
Testbed for new 00 space with no local
Static "k-space connections" are gates (precursors to player created stargates)
Wandering connections to wspace mirror current 00 wspace connection methods
Vastly increased system size will alter how grids and boosting work

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Steven Hackett
Overload This
Escalation Theory
#45 - 2014-11-06 23:31:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Steven Hackett
IMO. Thera doesn't rly classify as a wormhole system.
It is more like a K-space system without gates and local...

Look it as a new type of space, not as a new type of wormholes. As long as Thera isn't a part of the W-space static network, it doesn't qualify imo. :)
Hayley Enaka
Bookmark Both Sides
#46 - 2014-11-06 23:33:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Hayley Enaka
Phoenix Jones wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
Yay, docking games in WHs!!! *eyeroll*

This just gonna be the Sansha incursion base system?
It's the only story based thing that would make any sense at all so wouldn't surprise me.

Phoenix Jones wrote:
unimatrix0030 wrote:
Good point, off grid boost could be completly off balance!

This needs to be made a more significant point.

Off grid boosters are pretty easily scannable... I don't see the problem.


In a typical system, sure.

If all they do is orbit the highsec, or if system is some comedy size like 1,000 AU, that becomes significantly harder.

I'd rather it a playground for everybody than just a playground to those who brought boosts.

Edit: I am not saying disable them, but this needs to be looked at in this particular situation.


I'm with Jack, not seeing the issue here. If they orbit the highsec, send one ship to go scare them out of system and suddenly the boosts are gone. If they're at a deep safe, probe them down and deal with them. If you don't want to do that, then fly your ships right and you might get to wonder whether the boosts actually helped the other guys at all. Anyway, since when were people in wormholes bothered with things being harder?
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#47 - 2014-11-06 23:34:12 UTC
Steven Hackett wrote:
IMO. Thera doesn't rly classify as a wormhole system.
It is more like a K-space system without gates and local...

Look it as a new type of space, not as a new type of wormholes. As long as Thera isn't a part of the W-space static network, it doesn't qualify imo. :)



I think you are right, fozzie mentioned the fifth space, that seems a good description, but we are probably the most experienced with handling no local, so I imagine we will all have at least alts there. Should be a lot of fun.

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Hatshepsut IV
Un.Reasonable
#48 - 2014-11-06 23:34:29 UTC
Obil Que wrote:
I have a hard time seeing how the stations and wormholes aren't camped 24x7 by someone



It's simple. Effort < lazyness. Like every ******* time.

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Tiger Tesla
State War Academy
Caldari State
#49 - 2014-11-06 23:36:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiger Tesla
Maybe this will be CCP's attempt to still get the "media numbers" from having large space battles. Slow night? Tired of ratting/scanning/roaming? Oh, I hear there is a fight brewing in Thera.

All of K-space (and wormholers with connections to k-space or thera proper) jump clone into HUGE battles. No travel time needed. You always know what system it will be happening in.

It might be hard to get to the first time, but once you can put a clone there you can always find your way back.


That reason alone might make it a huge market for PvP. No Caps, No Cynos, no idea how many people are in system. Maybe your 30 man fleet is the big fish. Maybe there is a 100 man fleet combat scanning you down. Maybe there is a 500 man group about to land on your brawl.
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#50 - 2014-11-06 23:39:42 UTC
Hayley Enaka wrote:
Phoenix Jones wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
Yay, docking games in WHs!!! *eyeroll*

This just gonna be the Sansha incursion base system?
It's the only story based thing that would make any sense at all so wouldn't surprise me.

Phoenix Jones wrote:
unimatrix0030 wrote:
Good point, off grid boost could be completly off balance!

This needs to be made a more significant point.

Off grid boosters are pretty easily scannable... I don't see the problem.


In a typical system, sure.

If all they do is orbit the highsec, or if system is some comedy size like 1,000 AU, that becomes significantly harder.

I'd rather it a playground for everybody than just a playground to those who brought boosts.

Edit: I am not saying disable them, but this needs to be looked at in this particular situation.


I'm with Jack, not seeing the issue here. If they orbit the highsec, send one ship to go scare them out of system and suddenly the boosts are gone. If they're at a deep safe, probe them down and deal with them. If you don't want to do that, then fly your ships right and you might get to wonder whether the boosts actually helped the other guys at all. Anyway, since when were people in wormholes bothered with things being harder?



It is just one for CCP to consider, we do not know how big this space is, remember he implied this is REALLY big. As big as the whole of hisec? Or null? Or losec? Imagine a single booster providing boost to the whole of null. I think you would agree, that would be a bit out of balance?

All we can do is point it out as something to consider before release, CCP know how large it will be and can then see if it is something relevent. They probably thought of it already, but if not? No harm pointing out it should be thought about.

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Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#51 - 2014-11-06 23:55:37 UTC
epicurus ataraxia wrote:

It is just one for CCP to consider, we do not know how big this space is, remember he implied this is REALLY big. As big as the whole of hisec? Or null? Or losec? Imagine a single booster providing boost to the whole of null. I think you would agree, that would be a bit out of balance?

Yes they're going to make the system as large as all of null-sec because who doesn't love warping for 23 days straight... Roll

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epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#52 - 2014-11-06 23:59:30 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
Joshua Foiritain wrote:
epicurus ataraxia wrote:

It is just one for CCP to consider, we do not know how big this space is, remember he implied this is REALLY big. As big as the whole of hisec? Or null? Or losec? Imagine a single booster providing boost to the whole of null. I think you would agree, that would be a bit out of balance?

Yes they're going to make the system as large as all of null-sec because who doesn't love warping for 23 days straight... Roll



Maybe some people want to be far far away? I do not know the system effects, fast warp? Acceleration gates? Who knows, not us, I do not know what they think of as big, but I imagine he did not call it the fifth space for nothing. and not many people are going to be jumping/warping from one side of nullsec to the other any more, doesn't mean they are going to shrink it.

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Winthorp
#53 - 2014-11-07 00:48:48 UTC
Who will actually run the sites in there, everyone like me will have a toon in there.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#54 - 2014-11-07 01:09:30 UTC
BRAVE will connect in there via a S199, and suddenly 250 Moas who are all liable to DIAF to smartbombs, getting trapped in via having their hole rolled, and SD out en masse. Content!

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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#55 - 2014-11-07 01:28:56 UTC
Winthorp wrote:
Who will actually run the sites in there, everyone like me will have a toon in there.

why would a nullseccer like you care about this system?

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spaceghost69
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2014-11-07 04:44:40 UTC
Perma Tidi incoming Roll
Saisin
Chao3's Rogue Operatives Corp
#57 - 2014-11-07 05:49:53 UTC
more systems that may become important with no local!!

hell yeah!
Unlikely to see many null bears in those lol...

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Aivo Dresden
State War Academy
Caldari State
#58 - 2014-11-07 06:05:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Aivo Dresden
*Waits for RvB to move in*
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unimatrix0030
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2014-11-07 07:51:48 UTC
Rember guys the new Therra-space should look like a lawless jita version only in a system 20-100 times bigger.
So ever tried to scan an off grid booster in jita? And found just the one yu were looking for?

No local in null sec would fix everything!
Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#60 - 2014-11-07 08:41:51 UTC
Only thing i see from this is ships having to do multiple warps to get to one location

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