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Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#21 - 2014-11-06 21:30:45 UTC
Phoenix Jones wrote:
Especially if they allow jump cloning/medical cloning into it.

It would pretty much turn into a dictors comedy routine.

It depends on .. really several things.

1) the Amount of connections that come into it. If its just 1 connection, and people can crit holes, yea that place will become silly.
2) Station Mechanics. You want to remove or thrwart station gaming to some degree, else it'll literally be Jita Undock with a bubble on the station, 100 abandoned Drones on the undock and 30 tornado's 100km off.


1: multiple k-space connections were mentioned plus you'll have the wandering w-space connections

2: I believe they already fixed hobo jamming with interdictors, HICS get weapon timer off their bubbles (meaning they can't dock either), so docking/undocking should only be an issue vs instalockers or if your gang isn't big enough to scare off the HIC (similar to how it is in lowsec)

You should think of this less of a WH system with stations, and more of a segregated NPC null system with no local, and 'gates' that go to random systems. Maybe a good trade hub/meeting hub/fight club for us?

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Air
The Initiative.
#22 - 2014-11-06 21:31:37 UTC
So are these going to be new station designs and interiors or the bog standard choice of the four races? Because if they are going to be using current station designes, that's a bit lazy to be honest. Sleeper style Station or get out...Arrow

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calaretu
Honestly We didnt know
#23 - 2014-11-06 21:33:32 UTC
Very interesting. Seeing the signs of Sleepers themself being awake (not just the drones) and now this? This smell of a new faction entering the playing field (Sleepers in human form)
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#24 - 2014-11-06 21:34:43 UTC
"ccp doesn't care about WH space"

mfw

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King Fu Hostile
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#25 - 2014-11-06 21:38:24 UTC
**** arenas
calaretu
Honestly We didnt know
#26 - 2014-11-06 21:39:58 UTC
King Fu Hostile wrote:
**** arenas


And pandas? Nah dont think this will be anything resembling arenas
Jaari Val'Dara
Grim Sleepers
#27 - 2014-11-06 21:51:13 UTC
I just wonder how common wormholes into it will be.
Hayley Enaka
Bookmark Both Sides
#28 - 2014-11-06 21:55:10 UTC
This actually sounds pretty cool. I know I'd love to have a scout in there so if it's a quiet day in our home hole, we can get a k-space exit and go raid Thera
unimatrix0030
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2014-11-06 22:04:51 UTC
Also no capitals in the new space.
And don't forget they call it a NEW SPACE not wormhole space! (lets call it T-space)
Sounds like fun though.
I only hope that they won't use it as an excuse to stop improving w-space.

No local in null sec would fix everything!

Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#30 - 2014-11-06 22:07:46 UTC
Sounds pretty cool!

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epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#31 - 2014-11-06 22:10:01 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
With such a large system what on earth is going to happen with off grid boosts? It could get really messy, But being as all the rules are new, If the mechanics exist, It could well be a system where boosts just do not work.
Still plenty of places outside it where they do. So no one would Actually lose out if that were the case, But if they existed, No booster in system hidden far, far away? don't bother visiting.What?

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unimatrix0030
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2014-11-06 22:13:07 UTC
Good point, off grid boost could be completly off balance!

No local in null sec would fix everything!

Nolak Ataru
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2014-11-06 22:14:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Nolak Ataru
Andrew Jester wrote:
"ccp doesn't care about WH space"

mfw


There's a distinct difference between "caring" and "caring enough to make a good change."
Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#34 - 2014-11-06 22:26:20 UTC
unimatrix0030 wrote:
Good point, off grid boost could be completly off balance!


This needs to be made a more significant point.

Yaay!!!!

Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#35 - 2014-11-06 22:28:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
Yay, docking games in WHs!!! *eyeroll*

This just gonna be the Sansha incursion base system?
It's the only story based thing that would make any sense at all so wouldn't surprise me.

Phoenix Jones wrote:
unimatrix0030 wrote:
Good point, off grid boost could be completly off balance!

This needs to be made a more significant point.

Off grid boosters are pretty easily scannable... I don't see the problem.

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Shilalasar
Dead Sky Inc.
#36 - 2014-11-06 22:43:45 UTC
Well, you asked for jumpclones in J-space, though without a J-Sig.
And it comes with probably the most hated part of eve: Docking- and stationgames.
Looking forwards to the devblog giving more info esp about the other new systems.
Skywalker
Dubai Space Falcons
#37 - 2014-11-06 22:44:07 UTC
Can it have a kick-out station ?
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#38 - 2014-11-06 22:47:13 UTC
Skywalker wrote:
Can it have a kick-out station ?


A kick-out is not necessarily a good idea, it encourages stupid bubbling and camping of stations.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like station games, but both extremes aren't particularly fun. Without CONCORD, a large undock isn't so much of a problem as it is in high though.

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epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#39 - 2014-11-06 22:51:12 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
Jack Miton wrote:
Yay, docking games in WHs!!! *eyeroll*

This just gonna be the Sansha incursion base system?
It's the only story based thing that would make any sense at all so wouldn't surprise me.

Phoenix Jones wrote:
unimatrix0030 wrote:
Good point, off grid boost could be completly off balance!

This needs to be made a more significant point.

Off grid boosters are pretty easily scannable... I don't see the problem.

It depends how big the system is, If the same as currently, well no change there. If it is fifty times bigger? Well, hopefully there's a team of scan monkeys handy.

Damn never there when you need them.....Lol
The issue here does really speak for itself.

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RudinV
Sons Of Mother's Friend
Can i bring my Drake...
#40 - 2014-11-06 22:52:41 UTC
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