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Hera Chawla
Blue-Fire
#1 - 2014-11-06 20:36:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Hera Chawla
As talked about on o7 at about 34:30 http://www.twitch.tv/ccp/b/585962541

And mentioned in this dev blog: Here

There will be a new wormhole system named thera, it'll have stations and kspace roaming connections.

WH Blue bagel should take it, discuss?
Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#2 - 2014-11-06 20:40:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Phoenix Jones
There are multiple new wormhole space incoming, he just spoke about one of them.

Regarding Thera.

1) No capitals (cannot get in or build, which means no dreadnaughts, carriers, freighters, rorquals, possibly orca's also as its classified as a capital). You can't build them or get them in (logistics cried a little).

2) Enormous system, more than 1 station. Says its virtually impossible to lockdown the system.

3) no real way to control every connection in the system (assuming probably 6+ wormhole connections).

4) Cloning, manufacturing, research, everything in the station. (Jump Cloning Into a Wormhole Space System? Is this a good thing?)

5) No Starbases (No POS's) allowed, so no Gas refining can be done in here.

6) No Local

7) The Stations are NPC owned.

8) There will be sleeper sites.

9) All the statics will be to K Space, and no W-space statics. Only wandering wormholes will connect to other wspace from thera.

10) There will be a market to stock.

11) Tied in with storyline developments

12) Will release in Rhea.

13) There will be other wormhole space.

14) Everyday there will be more news regarding this.

15) there will be a unique system effect

16) Compares it to Jita without Concord.

17) Landmark sites throughout system.

Yaay!!!!

Niskin
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#3 - 2014-11-06 20:41:28 UTC
I couldn't hear very good so I'm replaying it to catch all the details. WH size will prevent caps, I did hear that. And it will be the biggest system in EVE.

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Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#4 - 2014-11-06 20:43:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Phoenix Jones
Edit.

Main question, Jump Clones? If so, is it a good thing for a wormhole system? Yes I know this is a different special type of super wormhole system, but this would pretty much allow all of new eden to dump their alt into here and interdict the system for a month when bored. I'm sure they considered this though as even if they do, they don't have caps to drop, carriers to triage, and fighters to assign.

Its interesting.

Yaay!!!!

MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-11-06 20:44:41 UTC
Phoenix Jones wrote:
edit..

Moo.



Yes?

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.

Alundil
Rolled Out
#6 - 2014-11-06 20:48:18 UTC
I've already booked the band for this gig
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5185057#post5185057

I'm right behind you

Nolak Ataru
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2014-11-06 20:52:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Nolak Ataru
Forgive me for being tired, but i just ran through the WH "little things" list and on 5 pages, I saw exactly ONE request for stations. Along with that station request came, in the same post, a request for claiming WH space, essentially turning WH into null SOV systems.

Why does CCP think we want stations when all we want is for them to fix their POS code, or to remove the spawn distance mechanics?

Forgive me for my pessimism, but if any of the data post-patch supported Fozzie's theory that the mass change would reinvigorate WH space, dont you think he'd have it plastered everywhere he could instead of introducing as many ideas and events, however bad they are, to try to bolster the numbers?
Hatshepsut IV
Un.Reasonable
#8 - 2014-11-06 20:58:29 UTC
Also Thera is an anagram of earth.

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MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-11-06 21:00:09 UTC
Hatshepsut IV wrote:
Also Thera is an anagram of earth.


It's also an anagram of "Hater" - in honor of everyone that posts on this forum perhaps?

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.

Glyndi
Doom Generation
Best Intentions.
#10 - 2014-11-06 21:05:50 UTC
Hatshepsut IV wrote:
Also Thera is an anagram of earth.



But even more then that:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Thera
Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#11 - 2014-11-06 21:07:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Seraph Essael
Woohoo Nullsec 2.0.

*removes tinfoil hat*

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Vulxanis Viceroy
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Khimi Harar
#12 - 2014-11-06 21:08:36 UTC
MooMooDachshundCow wrote:
Hatshepsut IV wrote:
Also Thera is an anagram of earth.


It's also an anagram of "Hater" - in honor of everyone that posts on this forum perhaps?


Why would we want this kind of wormhole station system? Does it have missions or something? How do you go in there and not die?

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Obil Que
Star Explorers
Solis Tenebris
#13 - 2014-11-06 21:10:05 UTC
Phoenix Jones wrote:
Edit.

Main question, Jump Clones? If so, is it a good thing for a wormhole system? Yes I know this is a different special type of super wormhole system, but this would pretty much allow all of new eden to dump their alt into here and interdict the system for a month when bored. I'm sure they considered this though as even if they do, they don't have caps to drop, carriers to triage, and fighters to assign.

Its interesting.


Crazy side thought, but as a community, looking to improve wormhole traffic, would it be outside the realm of possibility for someone like Damien or any of the wormhole mapping systems to produce a kind of "Where is Thera" site/feature to always have the entrances publicly available to promote people entering?
Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#14 - 2014-11-06 21:10:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Phoenix Jones
Vulxanis Viceroy wrote:
MooMooDachshundCow wrote:
Hatshepsut IV wrote:
Also Thera is an anagram of earth.


It's also an anagram of "Hater" - in honor of everyone that posts on this forum perhaps?


Why would we want this kind of wormhole station system? Does it have missions or something? How do you go in there and not die?


Its more like NPC Nullsec without local and No POS's.

its.. interesting. Its almost a pure pvp assault system. Probably the new version of the thunderdome with no capitals At All.

Obil Que wrote:
Phoenix Jones wrote:
Edit.

Main question, Jump Clones? If so, is it a good thing for a wormhole system? Yes I know this is a different special type of super wormhole system, but this would pretty much allow all of new eden to dump their alt into here and interdict the system for a month when bored. I'm sure they considered this though as even if they do, they don't have caps to drop, carriers to triage, and fighters to assign.

Its interesting.


Crazy side thought, but as a community, looking to improve wormhole traffic, would it be outside the realm of possibility for someone like Damien or any of the wormhole mapping systems to produce a kind of "Where is Thera" site/feature to always have the entrances publicly available to promote people entering?


That would probably be bad.

Yaay!!!!

Niskin
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#15 - 2014-11-06 21:11:37 UTC
Since the podcast started late the replay cuts off early and the details on Thera came out after the cut off point. Hopefully they will fix that.

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-MooMooDachshundCow

Obil Que
Star Explorers
Solis Tenebris
#16 - 2014-11-06 21:11:40 UTC
Vulxanis Viceroy wrote:
MooMooDachshundCow wrote:
Hatshepsut IV wrote:
Also Thera is an anagram of earth.


It's also an anagram of "Hater" - in honor of everyone that posts on this forum perhaps?


Why would we want this kind of wormhole station system? Does it have missions or something? How do you go in there and not die?


The intricacies of seeding the stations with goods, getting in and out safely, even using the w-space connections and returning without dying is somewhat mind boggling. I have a hard time seeing how the stations and wormholes aren't camped 24x7 by someone
Nash MacAllister
Air
The Initiative.
#17 - 2014-11-06 21:16:31 UTC
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. It isn't beyond the realm of possibility that some sort of mutual agreement is reached among wh entities on system "rules". Of course, as was said, it could also be a Thunderdome. We shall see how CCP proceeds as it seems they have put a lot of planning and thought into this...

Yes, if you have to ask yourself the question, just assume we are watching you...

Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#18 - 2014-11-06 21:20:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Phoenix Jones
Especially if they allow jump cloning/medical cloning into it.

It would pretty much turn into a dictors comedy routine.

It depends on .. really several things.

1) the Amount of connections that come into it. If its just 1 connection, and people can crit holes, yea that place will become silly.
2) Station Mechanics. You want to remove or thrwart station gaming to some degree, else it'll literally be Jita Undock with a bubble on the station, 100 abandoned Drones on the undock and 30 tornado's 100km off.
3) Amount of Stations. There will be multiple apparently.
4) Size. this is what might balance the system out. If it is ENORMOUS, then it will be less of an issue. They have said it is the largest system ingame, which is leaning to a 200+ au system.
5) There is no local. All campers use local as their major intelligence to doing anything. Without it, they are as vulnerable as everybody else (warp a cloaky, get within 10 km, warp gang, kill).
6) Boosters will be an issue in this system (a huge issue due to the system size).

We don't know what the station will do (for all we know it has guns on it).

We don't know what we can build at the station (Currently can't do Component Construction because you cannot react gas in the system because POS's aren't allowed).

This definitely requires some testing on SiSi. The Clone Mechanic Worries me the most here.

Yaay!!!!

Daimian Mercer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-11-06 21:25:57 UTC
Obil Que wrote:
Phoenix Jones wrote:
Edit.

Main question, Jump Clones? If so, is it a good thing for a wormhole system? Yes I know this is a different special type of super wormhole system, but this would pretty much allow all of new eden to dump their alt into here and interdict the system for a month when bored. I'm sure they considered this though as even if they do, they don't have caps to drop, carriers to triage, and fighters to assign.

Its interesting.


Crazy side thought, but as a community, looking to improve wormhole traffic, would it be outside the realm of possibility for someone like Damien or any of the wormhole mapping systems to produce a kind of "Where is Thera" site/feature to always have the entrances publicly available to promote people entering?


Now that is an interesting thought! I could probably add that as another chain map view mode. The only question really is how do we handle the signatures being entered? Could make any whs added to Thera directly a public sig but that would be forced upon people. I'm willing to do it as long as you guys don't want some crazy permissions system added :)

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Niskin
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#20 - 2014-11-06 21:29:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Niskin
Thera, as announced, will only have k-space connections. So that could simplify it. But that could also change, we don't really know.

EDIT: Did I miss something about random w-space connections to Thera?

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