Crime & Punishment

Not at all....I've already answered nearly all of the points you raise, and prefer short crisp arguments so I don't need to write a wall of text.

Really? Where?

Would you care to address the contents of the CSM 9 minutes quote in post #95 where CCP Rise says that the data they (CCP) have doesn't back up the "newbies leave Eve because of harassment" theory that you keep trumpeting as fact ?

All you've done is trot out the same old tripe every time, while actually skirting the points you claim to have answered. Have you considered a career in politics or ambulance chasing?

No, this is what is frustrating about talking to you.....you twist facts to support incorrect conclusions. Nowhere did I claim that the problem in Eve is newbies getting waxxed or dueled inside or right near newbie systems.

What CCP has already stated is a problem, and is taking steps to fix, is the awoxxing mechanics whereby the fear of getting killed by corpmates causes people to stay in NPC corps, get bored, and quit the game. Apparently there is voluminous data to support that proposition. Specifically, since people don't want to get blown up in highsec, they avoid risk, stick to boring activities, and find something more fun to do.

Now that exact same phenomenon exists by suicide ganking, wardeccs, etc... I'm not sure those are as easy to handle as awoxxing, where it can be comfortably tossed overboard, but obviously to the extent that a dangerous and dystopian highsec is hurting player retention, it seems that action should be taken.

No, this is what is frustrating about talking to you.....you twist facts to support incorrect conclusions.

Nowhere did I claim that the problem in Eve is newbies getting waxxed or dueled inside or right near newbie systems.

Looks less like griefing and more like baptism. If you can't deal with the realities of EVE in your first month then you should consider a different game. I mean, what's worse, losing the Venture which will take you an hour of L1 mission running to reclaim, or losing a freighter which took you weeks to save up for?

I don't mind if ganks turn away new players, for that reason. I'm more concerned about a complicated UI, poor tutorials, or the worst PVE in any MMO I've played turning away new players.

K. Two things.
1) OP and OP's antagonist. Kudos to OP for recognizing antagonist's playstyle. Kudos to Cosmic Jihadi for doing it right.
Seriously.

*deep breath*

2) Veers, til you provide some form of criminal content why don't you and Dr Beatrox both shimmy your asses back to I don't know ANY of the other forums where what you have to say might be relevant?
Seriously, and I mean you Veers, you waltz in here with your tin star on your chest and act like you know stuff... without the slightest hint of self-doubt or humility, and lay down the gospel of YOU on the rest of us.
This is what's stuck in my craw since you first popped your head up in C&P.
Most other folks in here have earned what respect they have through blood and fire and tears, and you walk in like you are the first and foremost authority on what is and what is not... and you wonder why you suffer continuous 'personal attacks', trolling, and whatnot. It's pretty simple, for what you've done is roughly the equivalent to walking into a biker bar and subsequently trying to convert the occupants over to your religion. That trick never works, and honestly usually results in tragedy for those who would be insane enough to try.
Respect in this particular subforum is NOT automatically granted, it is earned, and as far I and (please, anyone of repute feel free to step in here and contradict me) from what I can tell the general populace of C&P can tell, you have done nothing to earn such respect. So, until you have actually done or said something to merit the respect of those who would be willing to accept you as their peers, your opinion in these parts is going to be worth somewhat less than pod goo polluted with weird white floaty things.
This is not a troll, this is dead serious. The denizens of C&P live by fire and blood, not pissing and moaning.

This from the guy who made a 32 page troll thread on these forums about putting a bounty on my head and trying to get me killed. Maybe it's time to grow up and post constructively?

This from the guy who made a 32 page troll thread on these forums about putting a bounty on my head and trying to get me killed. Maybe it's time to grow up and post constructively?

Actually I posted directly on topic on post 18, where I said that it's kinda lame to target new players, and I feel that blowing up ventures when you strongly suspect a noob in them is wrong. That drew the usual Grr Veers crowd, and unfortunately the ISD's didn't respond. But feel free to add to the troll bounty thread - it could use the love, and is still too low to make it worth it for me to cut a deal with someone to get the bounty. Can you add 5 billion to it? Thanks.