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Wormhole Recon

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Mehrune Khan
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2014-11-06 11:16:22 UTC
Ship I am working on

I am not happy with the DPS of it, but that's the best I have been able to come up with so far. I haven't skilled for it yet, but I want to know what class wormholes I could do with that? I want to do sleeper sites and steal all their relic and data stuff. Could I do class 3's? Class 4's?

I'm not sure yet if I want to train up Recon Ships, but if this looks like it will work, I just might. With Recon Ships 4, the covert cloak would use 20 CPU. That would just barely send me over the 437.5 CPU cap, but I should be able to mitigate that with a named armor repper, or the CPU hardwiring implant. I also don't like how expensive it is, but it's still cheaper than a Stratios.

Any feedback would be appreciated.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2014-11-06 12:03:19 UTC
maby look into the stratios, just a thought.

also why use an expanded probe launcher?
are you looking for people or their assets?
if not, use a normal one as the one you have is gimping your ship.
Mehrune Khan
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-11-06 12:06:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Mehrune Khan
Dam right I will be looking for people. I don't want to jump somewhere and be greeted by some ganker's battlecruiser. Or two, or more.

Anyway, I've never fought sleepers. Can this do class 3's? Maybe even class 4's?
Jaari Val'Dara
Grim Sleepers
#4 - 2014-11-06 12:06:35 UTC
1st problem: Why salvager why tractor beam, you will have hard time trying to salvage anything, you need different ship for that.
2nd problem: With a tank like that, you will have hard time tanking C1 sites.
3rd problem: That dps is lower than a tanked out drakes, which is insane. You will take forever doing sites.


There are much better ships for it, the problem with this fit is that you try to do everything with it.
Mehrune Khan
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2014-11-06 12:08:36 UTC
Bad fit? Alright thanks I will try to make something beefier. I suppose I could put a normal cloak on a BC, but I wanted a covops.
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#6 - 2014-11-06 12:08:51 UTC
Stratios is pretty much the best choice as Ralph mentioned and you'll be hard pressed to do relic/data sites in C3 and above WHs because there are rats that spawn to defend them that are very tough. You could probably tank a Stratios to clear C2 relic/datas decently, but C3s have neuts and it's unlikely you can manage it without very expensive modules or a booster alt. That being said don't forget that the main draw to doing WH relic/data sites in lower class wormholes is the salvage from the wrecks, rather than hacking the actual cans.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#7 - 2014-11-06 12:16:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
yes but that's why you have a cloak that + learn how to dscan and you can check the area around you without announcing your presence to anyone living there.
a regular probe will allow you a real fit.
and in worm holes they are called the residents , no such thing as a gank in wh space.


Edit: a thought though,
this would be fine for an alt if you had a bigscarycombatfuckyouandeverythingnearyou character that would kill all the scary things.
Mehrune Khan
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2014-11-06 12:57:23 UTC
Myrmidon build

I think I will go with this. I hope it can do Class 3's? It's better DPS and much cheaper. I won't wince so hard losing one of these - that's one evening of mining for me.
Ahmed Ibn Rustah
Maxim 6
#9 - 2014-11-06 13:51:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Ahmed Ibn Rustah
Please read the above comments and drop that expanded probe launcher! Having that is killing your tank and DPS. That ship will not do C3's, although with light and medium drones you may be able to do C1's and C2's.

Also dont try to make this an all in one ship it just wont work. You need other ships for salvaging/hacking etc. With the new buff to low class WH loot you only need to loot the sleeper wrecks for the blue loot so dont worry about the salvage. With that Myrm, drop the expanded probe launcher, tractor, salvager, hacker and reclic mods, fit a target painter or a jam to keep the sleeper agro on you (so they dont shoot the drones) fit a proper tank with enams and pack multiple flights of light and medium drones. In your cargo hold bring an MTU.

What you do is scan the hole down in a cov ops frig, check the hole for activity, scan and bm all the sites. Go back into HS and get the Myrm run the sites droping the MTU as soon as you land, scoop the loot and the MTU once the site is done and move on. If you want to do the data and relic sites bring the mods in your cargo and a mobile depot and refit as needed. If you want to salvage the wrecks bookmark them once they are looted and then come back in a T1 destroyer with a T1 cloak and a probe launcher (normal not expanded) and use that for salvaging.

When running the sites keep alligned to a safe and watch d scan. If you see another ship/probes on D warp out.

If you really want an all in one ship then you will need to spend a lot of isk, you will need a Stratios and a mobile depot as a minium and T2 mods may not be enough, T3 cruisers are the best though and these will NOT be T2 fit.
Mehrune Khan
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2014-11-06 14:08:04 UTC
What a bunch of downers. I will try my myrm and see how I do. If I get rich I'm going to come back and laugh at all of you.
Ahmed Ibn Rustah
Maxim 6
#11 - 2014-11-06 14:22:42 UTC
Thats the spirit!!
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#12 - 2014-11-06 14:27:06 UTC
love the attitude, Big smile

watch this, and practice the technique therein, seriously if you take anything away from the thread it should be that....and the probe thing
(they are fine for a scout looking for something you would kill with a bigscarycombatfuckyouandeverythingnearyou character but they are deliberately designed to gimp the ship you put them on)