EVE General Discussion

Let me be a bit more clear, for people that don't live in null sec you just won't understand so please inform yourself as to what life in 0.0 is like. Fighting for sov, grinding structures, having a sense of pride holding it or dropping an egg.

So I hoped into my buzzard and made a jump, great. Warp to gate and hit the next bridge.. (okay wait for it this is the "fun" part in eve) I jump cause the timer has already reset as it was only like 3 mins, jump again... wait this is starting to suck..mins turn into hours and a lot of wasted time not actually playing the game I've PAID to play. Okay fine i'll just take the gates like ccp wants me to. I now have the pleasure of looking at warp animations and gate effects for the next 7 gates. God forbid if I was actually in a battleship trying top get to an escalation. Basically by that point I've spend half the time I have to play eve at night doing absolutely nothing, games are suppose to be fun. They took the most boring part of the game and made it worse.

This is not progress, CCP Greyscale was told years ago the idea was a bad one yet now that the "good" devs have left he did it anyways. CCP has basically forced a player that wants to enjoy the game now to move to low sec or empire. What happened to the sandbox??

Empire players are not affected by this in the same degree therefore have no weight in their arguments about me just QQing.

CCP Greyscale needs a smack on the side of the head for not thinking this through thoroughly.

Watching "loading screens" is not fun no mater how you look at it PERIOD.

Oh right ... I have to fly a hauler instead ... good one. lawl

Interesting none of the comments about it being good are coming from a known null sec corp... interesting.

The only people saying that the jump fatigue change is good are the empire pubbies that it does NOT effect in anyway.

'Good' is a matter of perspective. Necessary is not. Additionally this affects everyone who plays the game, including industrialists that never even undock, since it changes how goods are going to flow as well. And certainly affects most people who live in high sec directly since just because someone lives there doesn't mean they never go to low or null & thus are vulnerable to hot drops or that they don't own or make use of jump services at some stage.
So trying to say it doesn't affect people just shows how poor your understanding of how all of EVE is connected is.

Regardless of 'good', this change was needed to slow down force projection. It's possible there was an even better solution somewhere out there, but in over 500 pages of crying, not a single better solution was actually put forward. People either put forward 'proposals' that utterly removed the entire effect of the nerf, or ones that were actually worse, like stranding people inside a jump tunnel for a whole hour (imagine 10 hours in tidi just waiting for your jump to finish when you aren't even in a system).
Not one was actually a real improvement to nerf force projection.

And yes, this was a nerf. It was meant to be a nerf as Force Projection was too powerful for the game CCP wants to have. Deal with that aspect.

Let me be a bit more clear, for people that don't live in null sec you just won't understand so please inform yourself as to what life in 0.0 is like. Fighting for sov, grinding structures, having a sense of pride holding it or dropping an egg.

So I hoped into my buzzard and made a jump, great. Warp to gate and hit the next bridge.. (okay wait for it this is the "fun" part in eve) I jump cause the timer has already reset as it was only like 3 mins, jump again... wait this is starting to suck..mins turn into hours and a lot of wasted time not actually playing the game I've PAID to play. Okay fine i'll just take the gates like ccp wants me to. I now have the pleasure of looking at warp animations and gate effects for the next 7 gates. God forbid if I was actually in a battleship trying top get to an escalation. Basically by that point I've spend half the time I have to play eve at night doing absolutely nothing, games are suppose to be fun. They took the most boring part of the game and made it worse.

This is not progress, CCP Greyscale was told years ago the idea was a bad one yet now that the "good" devs have left he did it anyways. CCP has basically forced a player that wants to enjoy the game now to move to low sec or empire. What happened to the sandbox??

Empire players are not affected by this in the same degree therefore have no weight in their arguments about me just QQing.

CCP Greyscale needs a smack on the side of the head for not thinking this through thoroughly.

I think you have had too much of your own sauce.
The change doesn't effect everyone at all.
Everything empire pubbie need to function has not changed. Industrialists will still get what they need.
Pubbies can still go to low or null sec & they can still use jump freighter services, non of which they themselves will incur jump fatigue or cool down timers.
Yes force projection was/ is a problem but this solution is way over the top, went to far, its not a nerf, its the near extinction of super carriers & titans, made dreads & carriers obsolete.
Subcaps can do caps jobs quicker now because of no timers.
Watch for subscriptions to drop. no need for titans, no need for supercarrier , very limited use for dreads & carriers.
They can all be unsubbed & only activated if home space gets invaded.

CCP needs to increase the jump ranges by 2.5ly & half the fatigue.

The only people saying that the jump fatigue change is good are the empire pubbies that it does NOT effect in anyway.