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Please put in a skill que Optimizer

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NeCrox
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-11-05 13:50:23 UTC
As the heading say's please put in a skill que Optimizer from lowest time to highest time ,would really help when looking at current skills and planning thanks .

Btw great job on phoebe love the new U.I
Kamahl Daikun
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-11-05 14:43:56 UTC
I'm not sure if you're aware of how many third party tools are available just for this.

Also notepad.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#3 - 2014-11-05 14:49:57 UTC
You can do some optimization with this handy tool.

Mr Epeen Cool
NeCrox
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-11-05 16:19:14 UTC
the skill queue Optimizer is for unlimited skill queue it right click optimize skill's in order from lowest training time to highest real simple to put in . Btw I don't use 3 rd party programs no reason for it , not going take a risk at getting a virus on my top end rig
NeCrox
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-11-05 16:20:45 UTC
with phoebe they took out the 24 queue so with that sad you need a skill queue optimizer
Kamahl Daikun
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-11-05 16:23:46 UTC
NeCrox wrote:
the skill queue Optimizer is for unlimited skill queue it right click optimize skill's in order from lowest training time to highest real simple to put in . Btw I don't use 3 rd party programs no reason for it , not going take a risk at getting a virus on my top end rig


Out of the thousands of people who downloaded something like EveMon and didn't get a virus, I think it's pretty safe to assume it doesn't contain malware. Then again, if you're that paranoid and completely incapable of scanning a file, you can even use the browser based tools.

Or, if you're somehow too inept to use a web tool but somehow managed to navigate here and download Eve, pen and paper.


Can I have combat AI in my ships too? I honestly just want to watch Eve play itself.
Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2014-11-05 16:38:49 UTC
NeCrox wrote:
the skill queue Optimizer is for unlimited skill queue it right click optimize skill's in order from lowest training time to highest real simple to put in . Btw I don't use 3 rd party programs no reason for it , not going take a risk at getting a virus on my top end rig

EVEMon also works fine on Linux with Wine, and you can always setup a VM if you are really paranoid.

But seriously, EVEMon, EFT, and Pyfa are all fine. If there was no reason to use 3rd party tools CCP wouldn't have added EFT format support to the EVE client and spent all that time making an API for 3rd party tools to use. And you can't tell me that the in game fitting window does everything that it needs to do.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#8 - 2014-11-05 18:02:06 UTC
Kamahl Daikun wrote:
NeCrox wrote:
the skill queue Optimizer is for unlimited skill queue it right click optimize skill's in order from lowest training time to highest real simple to put in . Btw I don't use 3 rd party programs no reason for it , not going take a risk at getting a virus on my top end rig


Out of the thousands of people who downloaded something like EveMon and didn't get a virus, I think it's pretty safe to assume it doesn't contain malware. Then again, if you're that paranoid and completely incapable of scanning a file, you can even use the browser based tools.

EVEmon from the official site is virus-free. Even CCP devs have reported they use it.

Same goes for EFT.
NeCrox
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-11-05 20:35:21 UTC
wow you all totally missed the point, maybe it was overlooked when they took out 24 hr queue times .
back when I started in 04/05 it would automatically stack the skills from lowest- highest training time in the skill queue that's all I 'm asking I don't need more 3rd party junk to run the game with , unlike you I enjoy the game they way it is I don't need a custom ui and all the other bells to make my gaming experience more enjoyable .
and yes some 3rd party programs have little things called key logger's or adware and yes some ccp may use it but they're not under any contract to keep the software clean geezs .
just fyi
asus z97 mb
4970k cpu
evo 840 1 gig ssd
gtx 980 and 16 g ddr4 2100 oc
win 7 64 uli
with a lg 24m35 monitor I run eve at max setting's in 1080p why would I want to ruin my gaming experience with clutter .
Kamahl Daikun
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-11-05 21:36:54 UTC
NeCrox wrote:
wow you all totally missed the point, maybe it was overlooked when they took out 24 hr queue times .
back when I started in 04/05 it would automatically stack the skills from lowest- highest training time in the skill queue that's all I 'm asking I don't need more 3rd party junk to run the game with , unlike you I enjoy the game they way it is I don't need a custom ui and all the other bells to make my gaming experience more enjoyable .
and yes some 3rd party programs have little things called key logger's or adware and yes some ccp may use it but they're not under any contract to keep the software clean geezs .
just fyi
asus z97 mb
4970k cpu
evo 840 1 gig ssd
gtx 980 and 16 g ddr4 2100 oc
win 7 64 uli
with a lg 24m35 monitor I run eve at max setting's in 1080p why would I want to ruin my gaming experience with clutter .


You enjoy the game the way it is but want something to change for your needs? Cool stuff.

Also hot damn, that 5mb application is going to make your computer run slower than a P2 running Windows 95.
NeCrox
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-11-05 22:16:01 UTC
I guess you where not around in 04/05 when you stack a skill and it auto optimized I was asking for something that was already in the game years ago .. why does it have to start a troll?
Jealous much ?
Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2014-11-05 22:19:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Antillie Sa'Kan
NeCrox wrote:
and yes some 3rd party programs have little things called key logger's or adware and yes some ccp may use it but they're not under any contract to keep the software clean geezs .

I am not aware of any of the major 3rd party apps for EVE ever having any kind of spyware of malware bundled with them on their official download sites, and I have been using these tools and others like them since 2005.

Pyfa and EVEMon are both open source and their source code is readable by anyone. Granted not everyone knows how to read source code but if Pyfa or EVEMon did have something malicious buried in them somewhere I'm sure someone (such as myself) would have spotted it by now.

EFT is a bit more opaque but I have never noticed any odd traffic leaving my box on my Cisco 3745 or ASA 5505 when EFT was running. Had someone like me noticed any such traffic over the years I assure you that packet captures would have been started and Wireshark fired up.

NeCrox wrote:
just fyi
asus z97 mb
4970k cpu
evo 840 1 gig ssd
gtx 980 and 16 g ddr4 2100 oc
win 7 64 uli
with a lg 24m35 monitor I run eve at max setting's in 1080p why would I want to ruin my gaming experience with clutter .


Cool story bro. But I think your box may be a bit overkill for EVE. My aging Phenom II x4 965 Black Edition and crossfire paired Radeon HD 5770s run two EVE clients at once, both at 1080p on max settings, each on its own screen, without breaking a sweat.
Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2014-11-05 22:20:39 UTC
NeCrox wrote:
I guess you where not around in 04/05 when you stack a skill and it auto optimized I was asking for something that was already in the game years ago .. why does it have to start a troll?
Jealous much ?

Hu? There was no skill queue in 05. What are you taking about?
NeCrox
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-11-05 23:24:57 UTC
I seriously doubt that aged box will run anything 1080p cool story and btw yes it was skill optimization was automatic in 04/05 they took out once they put in 24 hr skill queue .
Look it's real easy I am not talking planning queue like 3rd party programs all I'm asking is something simple I stack 5 skills it auto sets said skills from lowest training time to highest , you all act like I'm asking for a golden apple.
btw eve hear of a link tag ? example you got link to x program on your website I tag said link you can't see it server side only when x person dl will it come up happens all the time just check out Google or msn tons of link tags everywhere .
Name calling cause I don't use said program is ridiculous , just because I choose not ot use 3rd party program doesn't make less of player.
Btw source code isn't hard to read so stop acting foolish, and 2 x hd 5950's can't run 1080p sorry card's are only 2 gig and lack 1080p support cool story though a gtx 980 is oc 4 gig card can run 3 x monitor's in 1080p I personally don't see the need to go blind at an early age though .

NeCrox
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-11-05 23:29:54 UTC
my bad 1 gig cards 5770 's even at 2x you'll be pushing those cards to their max limit to run 1080p everything on very low setting might squeak it out but dang the gpu heat got to be huge in the 90 c easy .
The whole point is 10 year max skill queue just put in skill queue optimizer that set's x skills lowest to highest is that to much ask?
Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2014-11-05 23:58:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Antillie Sa'Kan
NeCrox wrote:
I seriously doubt that aged box will run anything 1080p cool story and btw yes it was skill optimization was automatic in 04/05 they took out once they put in 24 hr skill queue .
Look it's real easy I am not talking planning queue like 3rd party programs all I'm asking is something simple I stack 5 skills it auto sets said skills from lowest training time to highest , you all act like I'm asking for a golden apple.
btw eve hear of a link tag ? example you got link to x program on your website I tag said link you can't see it server side only when x person dl will it come up happens all the time just check out Google or msn tons of link tags everywhere .
Name calling cause I don't use said program is ridiculous , just because I choose not ot use 3rd party program doesn't make less of player.
Btw source code isn't hard to read so stop acting foolish, and 2 x hd 5950's can't run 1080p sorry card's are only 2 gig and lack 1080p support cool story though a gtx 980 is oc 4 gig card can run 3 x monitor's in 1080p I personally don't see the need to go blind at an early age though .

Please explain how skill optimization was done back when you couldn't queue up a skill to train until after the current one was done training. Back in 05 If your current skill finished at 3am you either got up at 3am to start a new still training or you missed several hours of training time.

There is nothing wrong with choosing not to use 3rd party tools. Just don't ask the EVE devs to spend time writing features that a 3rd party dev has already written.

Also, my steady 60 FPS (capped by my screen's 60hz refresh rate) in EVE, Crysis 2, Civ5, Borderlands 2, Diablo 3, and Bioshock Infinite (1920x1080, all max settings) would disagree with you. I do admit that the thermal output is a bit higher than I would like though. I'm sure I would have issues at higher resolutions but my screens are physically limited to 1920x1080 so, meh.
NeCrox
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-11-06 00:12:51 UTC
wow you guys example I take 4 skills 24 m 28 m 29 m and 30 m training times back in o4 I stack them in skill queue they would automatically optimize from lowest-to highest training time when I hit apply .
It's not a 3rd party program never was it's in -game optimization when you stack skills it's simple no need for 3rd party anything , what you are all talking about is time queue optimization which is completely different thing x skills to train to 5 and how many days weeks or months .

Off topic I can run any game ultra settings never break 60c because of the Maxwell GPU optimization for auto OC very nice card will be the new generation plus new DSR platform , btw have you ever benched it?
I have and I rarely drop below 70 fps in a cycle btw this whole system or should say 3 systems cost me 1700 $ us it's great getting 25% off when I shop at fry's plus I know all the techs if you would like I can post pics of this monster just ask
Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2014-11-06 01:58:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Antillie Sa'Kan
NeCrox wrote:
...back in o4 I stack them in skill queue...

That's the part that makes no sense. There was no skill queue in 04 or 05. It wasn't even announced until February 09. See?
Sheeth Athonille
TerraTroopers
Get Off My Lawn
#19 - 2014-11-06 02:55:03 UTC
Yeah I have a feeling you might not know what you are talking about...

It would be nice to have one, but not really all that important in my opinion.
Kamahl Daikun
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2014-11-06 11:58:41 UTC
NeCrox wrote:
I guess you where not around in 04/05 when you stack a skill and it auto optimized I was asking for something that was already in the game years ago .. why does it have to start a troll?
Jealous much ?


Jealous of what, exactly?
What you're asking for is literally drag and drop. Why it needs to be a feature is beyond me. The training times are displayed right next to the skill. Is it too much to ask that you reorder them yourself? I know we're crossing single digits with the training times but even someone like yourself can order numbers.

Also, that's the exact change I'm talking about. You said it was in the game years ago, allegedly. The keyword is "was". Past tense, as in, isn't anymore. That sounds like a modification they'd have to make to accommodate someone who can't order numbers.

Go away.
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