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Blue Loot in K-Space.

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Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#1 - 2014-11-05 20:29:29 UTC
Not too sure where to put this or if it should be in a specific feedback thread:

New video of tests on SiSi of these new nullsec Data Sites shows a drop (even if it is small) of Sleeper loot. Considering they just increased the price of the blue loot drops for lower class wormholes it seems odd they now add them to Data drops in K-Space?

Not sure what this means, if anything at all, but is there any other information on this?

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
Nash MacAllister
Air
The Initiative.
#2 - 2014-11-05 20:37:04 UTC
Seraph Essael wrote:
Not too sure where to put this or if it should be in a specific feedback thread:

New video of tests on SiSi of these new nullsec Data Sites shows a drop (even if it is small) of Sleeper loot. Considering they just increased the price of the blue loot drops for lower class wormholes it seems odd they now add them to Data drops in K-Space?

Not sure what this means, if anything at all, but is there any other information on this?


I saw the same video today as well. I was not aware until seeing it that blue loot was a thing in HS. Seems like an odd change unless there are some very grandiose plans for wspace that tie into that lore thread...

Yes, if you have to ask yourself the question, just assume we are watching you...
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#3 - 2014-11-05 20:49:37 UTC
I wondered about that too, could be interesting times ahead.Question

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Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#4 - 2014-11-05 20:52:17 UTC
Nash MacAllister wrote:
Seraph Essael wrote:
Not too sure where to put this or if it should be in a specific feedback thread:

New video of tests on SiSi of these new nullsec Data Sites shows a drop (even if it is small) of Sleeper loot. Considering they just increased the price of the blue loot drops for lower class wormholes it seems odd they now add them to Data drops in K-Space?

Not sure what this means, if anything at all, but is there any other information on this?


I saw the same video today as well. I was not aware until seeing it that blue loot was a thing in HS. Seems like an odd change unless there are some very grandiose plans for wspace that tie into that lore thread...

Well there is the whole deal of T3 Destroyers, but I was under the impression that T3 production was from parts salvaged from sleepers in WHs. Adding this blue loot to K-Space takes away some of the uniqueness from wormholes. Not to mention there are a lot of people who run Data sites in Null... That's a lot of Blue Loot...

Interesting times aye, just would be nice with a little information about it.

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-11-05 21:07:02 UTC
IMHO it's probably related to sleepers moving more into K-space. I seem to recall there being some rumblings to that effect in several recent lore posts.

In any case, since this is blue loot the volume of it produced has no effect on market prices. As such, and as long as it's just blue loot, this will not be a problem for wormholers AFAIK.

And let's be honest, which one makes more sense: NPC/faction loot/sites in wormholes or sleeper loot in k-space?

Also - this is actually called a sleeper site, so having sleeper salvage in it makes sense. I'm sure the lore will explain why sleepers are moving into k-space more in the future.

Lets hope that these sites encourage explorers to venture into wormholes.

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#6 - 2014-11-05 21:08:44 UTC
All will be revealed in time......



In the meantime, you should all remember that blue loot is bought by NPC buy orders so dropping more of it in other places doesn't do anything to reduce its value.

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Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#7 - 2014-11-05 21:17:22 UTC
MooMooDachshundCow wrote:
IMHO it's probably related to sleepers moving more into K-space. I seem to recall there being some rumblings to that effect in several recent lore posts.

In any case, since this is blue loot the volume of it produced has no effect on market prices. As such, and as long as it's just blue loot, this will not be a problem for wormholers AFAIK.

And let's be honest, which one makes more sense: NPC/faction loot/sites in wormholes or sleeper loot in k-space?

Also - this is actually called a sleeper site, so having sleeper salvage in it makes sense. I'm sure the lore will explain why sleepers are moving into k-space more in the future.

Lets hope that these sites encourage explorers to venture into wormholes.

I'm not complaining, that's not the point of this thread, I'm just looking for a little more information, which now Fozzie has replied, it seems they cannot give out! (Hate it when that happens).

I agree it's a good incentive to increase the awareness of wormholes, more people to shoot in them is always a bonus.

If it is definitely a lore thing, I would be very happy with this, while not a RP'er I am somewhat interested in the lore aspect. I was somewhat disappointed with the sheer lack of Sleepers in the Eve: Source book.

CCP Fozzie wrote:
All will be revealed in time......



In the meantime, you should all remember that blue loot is bought by NPC buy orders so dropping more of it in other places doesn't do anything to reduce its value.

Meany Cry

I'm not saying it will go down in price or lowering the cost of anything blue loot related. But it's just that sleepers have always been a Wormhole thing and if they have something to do with T3 Destroyer manufacturing that is taking away some of the profit that potential wormhole manufacturers will make. If people don't have to go into wormholes to get the blue loot they wont, they will take the path with least resistance.

I do however like the idea that there's potentially going to be more activities involving sleepers.

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
forsot
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#8 - 2014-11-05 21:24:39 UTC
Did they say that it would be a k-space site? Testing rare w-space content in w-space is kind of stupid if you want it tested properly do to test server chains being depressingly short and some what difficult to find.
MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-11-05 21:44:11 UTC
forsot wrote:
Did they say that it would be a k-space site? Testing rare w-space content in w-space is kind of stupid if you want it tested properly do to test server chains being depressingly short and some what difficult to find.


The video. Watch the video that was OP'ed next time and you won't ask that Q.

CCP Fozzie wrote:
All will be revealed in time......


You should call the major reveal patch "time".

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#10 - 2014-11-06 00:05:03 UTC
Nullbears will run the data and relic sites in nullsec, get the blue loot, and cry acidic tears of rage because they have nowhere to sell it in nullsec and they cant send it on their corp's daily milk run JF into k-space to be sold, because of jump fatigue.

Trolololol!

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Sequester Risalo
German Corps of Engineers 17
Federation of Respect Honor Passion Alliance.
#11 - 2014-11-06 05:18:15 UTC
On the other hand I encountered k-space sites in wormholes (Sansha and Angel). Was this in the patch notes? Is it a bug or will this also be revealed in time.
Winthorp
#12 - 2014-11-06 05:35:19 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:

In the meantime, you should all remember that blue loot is bought by NPC buy orders so dropping more of it in other places doesn't do anything to reduce its value.


How dare you confuse us that are strong believers in the tinfoil hat, RABBLE RABBLE.
Nolak Ataru
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2014-11-06 05:42:17 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
All will be revealed in time......

In the meantime, you should all remember that blue loot is bought by NPC buy orders so dropping more of it in other places doesn't do anything to reduce its value.


Tinfoil time. If I needed another reason to *not* enter wormholes for the current future, Fozzie gave one loud and clear.
calaretu
Honestly We didnt know
#14 - 2014-11-06 06:30:00 UTC
The fact that these are found in data and relic sites are significant. This means the pirate factions have started doing research into sleeper and tachyon tech. Side effects from this may be new hybrid sleeper/faction modules. Or even ships (probably balanced on par with current faction ships). But the pirate factions have been operating in sleeper space since the seyllin incident so seeing them making use of the tech is nothing strange. Keep in mind that Sansha has a working wormhole generator.

Also we do not yet know who will discover the new gate tech. But its very unlikely to be concord and the empires. They want their current control kept as is. It is very likely that this is a omen that the pirate factions are advancing their research now

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CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#15 - 2014-11-06 11:16:57 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Fozzie
Sequester Risalo wrote:
On the other hand I encountered k-space sites in wormholes (Sansha and Angel). Was this in the patch notes? Is it a bug or will this also be revealed in time.

That's in the patch notes.

calaretu wrote:
The fact that these are found in data and relic sites are significant. This means the pirate factions have started doing research into sleeper and tachyon tech. Side effects from this may be new hybrid sleeper/faction modules. Or even ships (probably balanced on par with current faction ships). But the pirate factions have been operating in sleeper space since the seyllin incident so seeing them making use of the tech is nothing strange. Keep in mind that Sansha has a working wormhole generator.

Also we do not yet know who will discover the new gate tech. But its very unlikely to be concord and the empires. They want their current control kept as is. It is very likely that this is a omen that the pirate factions are advancing their research now

You probably want to watch the whole JonnyPew video. This isn't a normal data/relic site. Big smile

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Twitch chat: ccp_fozzie
Obil Que
Star Explorers
Solis Tenebris
#16 - 2014-11-06 12:07:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Obil Que
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Sequester Risalo wrote:
On the other hand I encountered k-space sites in wormholes (Sansha and Angel). Was this in the patch notes? Is it a bug or will this also be revealed in time.

That's in the patch notes.

calaretu wrote:
The fact that these are found in data and relic sites are significant. This means the pirate factions have started doing research into sleeper and tachyon tech. Side effects from this may be new hybrid sleeper/faction modules. Or even ships (probably balanced on par with current faction ships). But the pirate factions have been operating in sleeper space since the seyllin incident so seeing them making use of the tech is nothing strange. Keep in mind that Sansha has a working wormhole generator.

Also we do not yet know who will discover the new gate tech. But its very unlikely to be concord and the empires. They want their current control kept as is. It is very likely that this is a omen that the pirate factions are advancing their research now

You probably want to watch the whole JonnyPew video. This isn't a normal data/relic site. Big smile


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=383417&find=unread

Seems they arecalled "Limited Sleeper Cache"

Backstory in the dev posts on that link though that says now the are k-space only?
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#17 - 2014-11-06 13:05:52 UTC
Obil Que wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Sequester Risalo wrote:
On the other hand I encountered k-space sites in wormholes (Sansha and Angel). Was this in the patch notes? Is it a bug or will this also be revealed in time.

That's in the patch notes.

calaretu wrote:
The fact that these are found in data and relic sites are significant. This means the pirate factions have started doing research into sleeper and tachyon tech. Side effects from this may be new hybrid sleeper/faction modules. Or even ships (probably balanced on par with current faction ships). But the pirate factions have been operating in sleeper space since the seyllin incident so seeing them making use of the tech is nothing strange. Keep in mind that Sansha has a working wormhole generator.

Also we do not yet know who will discover the new gate tech. But its very unlikely to be concord and the empires. They want their current control kept as is. It is very likely that this is a omen that the pirate factions are advancing their research now

You probably want to watch the whole JonnyPew video. This isn't a normal data/relic site. Big smile


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=383417&find=unread

Seems they arecalled "Limited Sleeper Cache"

Backstory in the dev posts on that link though that says now the are k-space only?


Correct.

Game Designer | Team Five-0

Twitter: @CCP_Fozzie
Twitch chat: ccp_fozzie
calaretu
Honestly We didnt know
#18 - 2014-11-06 15:32:52 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Obil Que wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Sequester Risalo wrote:
On the other hand I encountered k-space sites in wormholes (Sansha and Angel). Was this in the patch notes? Is it a bug or will this also be revealed in time.

That's in the patch notes.

calaretu wrote:
The fact that these are found in data and relic sites are significant. This means the pirate factions have started doing research into sleeper and tachyon tech. Side effects from this may be new hybrid sleeper/faction modules. Or even ships (probably balanced on par with current faction ships). But the pirate factions have been operating in sleeper space since the seyllin incident so seeing them making use of the tech is nothing strange. Keep in mind that Sansha has a working wormhole generator.

Also we do not yet know who will discover the new gate tech. But its very unlikely to be concord and the empires. They want their current control kept as is. It is very likely that this is a omen that the pirate factions are advancing their research now

You probably want to watch the whole JonnyPew video. This isn't a normal data/relic site. Big smile


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=383417&find=unread

Seems they arecalled "Limited Sleeper Cache"

Backstory in the dev posts on that link though that says now the are k-space only?


Correct.


So the sleepers themself did really awaken. Not only their drones that we fight in wormholespace. This is indeed a interesting turn of events. And seeing that wormholegenerator in action raise some interesting options. Maybe thats what we should try to be reverse engineering.

~Bringer of happiness

http://collapsedbehind.blogspot.no/
Nash MacAllister
Air
The Initiative.
#19 - 2014-11-06 15:41:11 UTC
Nolak Ataru wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
All will be revealed in time......

In the meantime, you should all remember that blue loot is bought by NPC buy orders so dropping more of it in other places doesn't do anything to reduce its value.


Tinfoil time. If I needed another reason to *not* enter wormholes for the current future, Fozzie gave one loud and clear.


That makes zero sense...

Yes, if you have to ask yourself the question, just assume we are watching you...
Nash MacAllister
Air
The Initiative.
#20 - 2014-11-06 15:43:20 UTC
I really like where this is headed. Thank you for the thread participation Fozzie...

Yes, if you have to ask yourself the question, just assume we are watching you...
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