Warfare & Tactics

Drones are very easy to jam and the worm has the courtesy of only having 2 of them, Jammed drones sit at 0m/s and need to be told to attack again even if they get unjammed. Coupled with the fact that the worm pilot will not be able to see when his drones are jammed/unjammed it should lead to some confusion.

I will leave you to ponder ships and fits.

crosi i like this and i think i stated perhaps dramiel with jam donres and once jammer or comet perhaps i think this would be really fun to try and if the jams are landing it would just be funny to ponder the worm pilot trying to figure out why he is doing **** dmg

Good luck with the dual web hookbill, let me know how it goes. Ive been planning to try it myself, just havent found the right situation.

succubus gets that nifty ab speed bonus, if the worm is brawl fit (web + scram) and youre losing, just o/h your mids and pull range and warp out. if he is kite fit with light missiles, you should have either more or comparable dps, in which case his applied dps with missiles will be lower as youll be zipping around at 2km/s with no sig bloom. of course you have to catch him. not sure if an ASB or shield extender would be better tank against a worm though. im inclined to say ASB cuz blue pill + crystals and the succubus has a good amount of innate shield hp

most of these ideas would get rocked by a worm. kite ships will die if the worm decides to stop, because then your ship will stop as well, and the drones will eat you before you even realize that you're stopped. if you intend to outrun the drones by orbiting, you're limited to fragile ships with light missiles, and it still won't be as fast as you need it to be without links or overheating.

so after eliminating fast frigs, what are we left with, daredevil? here's the problem with that:

1) the worm can potentially do any type of damage while the DD is limited to kinetic/thermal.
2) Worms start out with a 4% resistance buff per level, so the odds are good that it can tank a DD for longer than a DD can survive being hit in its resist hole. Even with Warrior drones, each drone can potentially do over 350 damage per volley, so two of them are hitting you with 700 damage every four seconds.

Basically, you're taking a major risk with the odds against you if you're trying to engage a Worm in a DD. The more DPS you try to shoehorn onto the DD, the less tank you'll have, so diminishing returns will be hit pretty quick.

Let's not even get started on the dual MASB Breacher. The resist profile is garbage, and the Worm will breeze right through both reppers going overheated with Blue Pill (I have the lossmail to prove it) if the pilot is smart enough to deploy Acolytes or Hobgoblins.

Jamming them might work, but it would be pretty difficult to keep your cool and wait for your ship to lock each drone (sloooow) while they're overwhelming you with insane volleys. I don't think I would choose to rely on this.

I'm going to say there is no single counter to the Worm in a novice simply because the average resists are not good enough. It doesn't matter how much EHP you have or how much DPS you can tank on average/on paper if the Worm can hit you right in your biggest resist hole with drones that can hit you with more than the equivalent of an artillery volley ever four seconds.

what's funny? if i'm way off i wouldn't mind knowing why, i'm just theorycrafting on the worst-case scenario

oh i did not know, show me how to do it please, i can wait for the killmail.

Worm is OP.

There's the sad truth.

Both the Cruor and the Daredevil might have a chance but i doubt they could close the distance before the drones would take them down.

ECM burst doesn't prevent locking, it only breaks lock (although from what other have said in this thread, the worm pilot will need to make the drones attack again).
Targeted ECM seems to be the best choice, although if it's not griffin the chance isn't very high.