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Character skill point(retrain) one off tokens

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CyberWulf
Malevelon Roe Industries
Convocation of Empyreans
#1 - 2014-11-05 14:35:04 UTC
This has not been looked at as a community properly for a long time and all the old ones are in skills and all posts are loced so you cant even comment on them. Before we lock it down as repetative can we at least discus it. Locking the thread stops people discusing it which is what its all about. (Unless ccp locks it becasue they just dont even want to consider the option) which in turn means they really dont give a crap about us.

I want to know when they will bring about a mass skil point reset. Over the years the game has evolved and changed. I have have breaks and each time i come back somwething has changed. they removed skills, they added skills but then made the scanner stuff open to anyone, i worked hard at scanning system to find nothing or stuff already used up. now those skills are dead and wasting away. I just want to keep the ships im happy with retrian all my skills but keep my agents and my stading. Im not asing for a full on reset buttom im asking about a one off token that will allow me to just redo my entire skill tree.

What are peoples opinions on this. (we know ccp can do it as they have refunded skil points in the past when they chose to remove skills.)

This is a token linked to the account. It can only be used on character created on that account not on purchased characters and charaters with skill points reset and not spent could not be sold on the bazar. (you can sell them after youve spent the points) but the token would be limited to one per account and non transferable.
Keras Authion
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-11-05 18:22:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Keras Authion
Crossposting is bad as is reopening locked threads mmkay?

The stuff people have to say was mostly said in your previous thread. Let's just say the opinion isn't for the change. you will need quite a bit more than "I want" to persuade anyone around here. Be prepared to do very extensive analysis of pros and cons to change anyone's mind. I'll copypaste the relevant points from Tippia's response to the skillpoint threads. Most of them still apply at least in part.

It removes the point of having skills to begin with.
It removes the point of having attributes.
It removes attribute implants from the game.
It removes variety and instead encourages FOTM and cookie-cutter setups.
It removes the uniqueness, history and "character" of your character.
It removes planning and choice and consequences.
It removes goal-setting, progression and any achievement in those areas.
It kills character trading.
It massively boosts older characters over new ones.

And if you didn't find enough discussion about skillpoint reallocation, here's some more links for you.

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1482000

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1482719

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1481198

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1475176

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1445070

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1441866

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1441019

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1403827

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1437813

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1393113&page=1#1

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1410215

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1492072

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1389665

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1525980

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=96555&find=unread

Edit: Looks like the threads have been vanished. It might have something to do with the old forums so check back in a while.

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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#3 - 2014-11-05 19:04:57 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
CyberWulf wrote:
Unless ccp locks it becasue they just dont even want to consider the option
I'm not employed by CCP, but am a volunteer player doing a job in their place. Still, this thread gets a lock because as far as my knowledge goes (and I am pretty well informed to say the least) there are no plans whatsoever to let players re-allocate skill-points in whatever way shape or form this could be done.
CyberWulf wrote:
which in turn means they really don't give a crap about us.
No, it doesn't. CCP actually cares a great deal about us. You, me, all players. I assure you, not planning to change one aspect of the game does not in anyway mean they do not care for their player-base.

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